I do own a firearm myself (saiga-12), but it's ALWAYS in the safe, and i wouldn't even consider using it for home protection. Shooting someone, even if said person is breaking in, can turn against you, and you might end up in a bad place yourself (legally), in my country at least.
I do own a very extensive collection of knives, and am quite proficient with them, kudos to training with a pro knife instructor in the military. It's enough for me to defend my house in case of a break in, considering darkness and me being well familiar with the layout.
Last edited by Darkis; 2012-11-27 at 08:55 PM.
i didnt get rid of any of the parts i replaced. the orignal buttstock is in my gun safe. the orignal finish on it is in good condition and i have been hesistant to do any refinishing work on it, but i assure you all of the pieces i have taken off are still in my possession
Different culture entirely, the Swedish to not claim to have a right to own firearms, they also do not have the same firearm obsessed culture.
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Yes, I am in the military, I know more about Assault rifles than you do.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle
An assault rifle is a select-fire (either fully automatic or burst capable) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine. It is not to be confused with assault weapons.[1] Assault rifles are the standard service rifles in most modern armies. Assault rifles are categorized in between light machine guns, which are intended more for sustained automatic fire in a light support role, and submachine guns, which fire a pistol cartridge rather than a rifle cartridge.
An AR15 cannot do either of those things, hence it is not an assault rifle.
I wonder if people think that United States is a small country. You hear about shootings and psychotic rampages on the news because it makes the ratings. Not to say it's not news or tragic, but it's a small price to pay for freedom when you look at the bigger, responsible nation.
I go outside everyday and there is some risk involved. I could get killed by a car accident, a plane crash, or a gun. If gun crimes were happening all around us in personal vicinity everyday, then it would be something to be alarmed about, but the average American has never seen a gun crime outside of news or television and therefore it is only a small price to pay for freedom.
Pfft, noob using a shotgun and commando.
Seriously though, I have a shotgun under my bed and a pistol alongside it and I'm the only one with access. It's just another example of stupid people ruining things for everyone else by making bad decisions. Dude executes intruders? He's crazy and it has nothing to do with guns. If he had stabbed them to death would people be trying to outlaw kitchen knives? People need to stop blaming inanimate objects and take responsibility for their actions.
i do from time to time take the folding buttstock off and put the orignal back on to remind myself what mine looks like. however i just prefer the looks of the folding buttstock on my sks to the orignal one.
sometimes if i get real nostalgic ill thrown the sling on it and attach the bayonet to it
You seem to be a bit defensive and I am a little confused why. I am not making a statement one way or the other, just pointing out the obvious. We are not having a discussion on the benefits of arming everyone. We are not engaging in a discussion of why its a good idea to engage in a gun fights. We are starting from a point of view that guns are a part of american culture and that culture has its roots from an age long gone. Everything else is just rationalization and rhetoric. Also, it seems necessary to point out how America differs starkly from pretty much all other civilized nations in this regards. There is a difference, and one way must be better than the other. You decide what indicators you want to use.
Also, to the cop posting in this thread:
I am not sure how you feel about it, but ever thought about going to work in a situation when EVERYONE is armed?
Never underestimate of the power of stupid people in large groups.
Right to bear arms in time of Militia.. as in When we have no standing army or police force enacted.
We have those in place to protect our nation and homes there fore the amendment is irrelevant...
Tired of gun owners quoting an out of date amendment to claim it's a right. Gun ownership is a privilege.
I'll leave this here as food for thought. It is kinda sad and sickening.
http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/eve...cle/id/250877/
you are wrong sir im former Military and my wife is a Police officer and on the swat team. Holmes used a S&W MP15 which is a variant of the AR 15 the MP in the name stands for Military and Police and it is an ASSAULT RIFLE even though it is not fully automatic you can shoot it as fast as you can pull the trigger and i can empty a semi auto assault rifle about as fast as a fully automatic one. That gun also hold 30 round magazines and up to 100 rounds from a drum magazine. Assault rifles are mainly used in the Military and Police and they are used to kill people hence why they are called Assault rifles. These guns are just semi auto versions of The same gun which i can modify in about 5 minutes to fire full auto
Last edited by Skandulous; 2012-11-27 at 09:19 PM.
Hope the following will settle this arguement:
The translation assault rifle gradually became the common term for similar firearms sharing the same technical definition as the StG 44. In a strict definition, a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:[4][5][6]
It must be an individual weapon with provision to fire from the shoulder (i.e. a buttstock);
It must be capable of selective fire;
It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle;
Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable magazine rather than a feed-belt.
And it should at least have a firing range of 300 meters (1000 feet)
Rifles that meet most of these criteria, but not all, are technically not assault rifles despite frequently being considered as such. For example, semi-automatic-only rifles like the AR-15 (which the M16 rifle is based on) that share designs with assault rifles are not assault rifles, as they are not capable of switching to automatic fire and thus are not selective fire capable. Belt-fed weapons or rifles with fixed magazines are likewise not assault rifles because they do not have detachable box magazines.
The term "assault rifle" is often more loosely used for commercial or political reasons to include other types of arms, particularly arms that fall under a strict definition of the battle rifle, or semi-automatic variant of military rifles such as AR-15s.
Sorry, I refuse to believe what you say over what pretty much every internet definition says, an assault rifle is needs to be able to fire more than one round per trigger pull.
I am willing to bet you were not Infantry during your time in the military, they go crazy if you get stuff like this wrong.
The bolded bit is also a flat out lie.
Last edited by mmoca51a6f9f4d; 2012-11-27 at 09:20 PM.
im in no way trying to start a pissing match but i will fully disagree with your opinion that you can pull a trigger and fire a semi automatic rifle as fast as someone can unload a clip in a fully automatic one.
also the ar that holmes used was not a select fire rifle, which is one of the criteria required for it to be considered an assault weapon.
Last edited by dokilar; 2012-11-27 at 09:20 PM.
Maybe you are reading too much into it. He doesn't strike me as defensive at all, I thought it was a thoughtful response to your post. I think you are looking for a fight that isn't there.
I also thought his approach to the thread topic was fine. He wanted to open a discussion with everyone about what he (and many gun owners) believes and why, while you seem to take issue with him for lack of information on gun control.
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And exactly the point of this thread is to show that most gun owners have a lot of respect for the power of their weapons and also for human life. This man clearly did not have the long talks with his father that I did about weapon safety, nor the strict discipline that I got when I failed to respect it.