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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightZero88 View Post
    A bug occurs when a certain series of criteria are met. If someone can reproduce the steps you did to have a bug occur the bug should occur for them too. If not it is a fluke and not really a bug. A bug is something that is fixable and if it occurs randomly with no rhyme or reason how would you fix it?

    So the bug that didn't allow some people to connect on launch wasn't a bug because it didn't effect everyone?



    How about error 37 for diablo? I play all the first week and never once seen that error.

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    Quite happy i enjoy this so much, to annoy the PVE players *evil grin* There are literally whole PVP guilds currently chasing PVE players there been waiting for world PVP in what ever form for quite a while. Even if its just griefing.

    On the topic about the legendary where did it ever say PVP players do not deserve a legendary? Or that a legendary shouldnt mean you have to do all aspects of the game?

    PS: A smart PVE player should not attack a PVP flagged player, if you are to silly to do so or not careful you get what you deserve.

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    Get better at PvP and do dailies with friends... if not, quit.

    Most likely the wisest Enhancement Shaman.

  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by slozon View Post
    So the bug that didn't allow some people to connect on launch wasn't a bug because it didn't effect everyone?



    How about error 37 for diablo? I play all the first week and never once seen that error.
    Either did I. Could be related to any number of factors. Your PC, your router, your service provider, etc, etc. Unless your system is exactly the same as another user that was having the problem and you did the exact steps as them then this is not the same.

    In the game however the above do not apply in this specific example.

    There is a reason troubleshooting bugs is such a pain in the ass. Because they really can be caused by darn near anything and are hard to reproduce (sometimes).

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    People go on a PvE server but are forced to PvP? Kinda ridiculous. I'm on a PvP server and I accept the PvP that goes on but if it's PvE? Yeah that's fair enough to bitch, you chose that realm to avoid the ganking and should continue to have a non-ganking experience.

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    Getting PvEers flagged is amusing.. I remember many evenings of amusement at tricking people into flagging and then destroying them 3:1.

    Way too many people use multi-target attacks without realizing it, and that opposing faction flagged player that jumps right in front of you mid combat while you're multi-targeting.. yeah, that gets you flagged fast.

    Personally, I prefer what Rift does. If you don't have pvp enabled, you can't attack a pvp flagged npc or player that would cause you to be flagged. There's more to it but it eliminates most of the "oops" out of flagging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhelmet View Post
    Way too many people use multi-target attacks without realizing it, and that opposing faction flagged player that jumps right in front of you mid combat while you're multi-targeting.. yeah, that gets you flagged fast.
    AoE's do not affect flagged players if you're unflagged on a PvE realm, unless of course you have them targeted and attack them with the direct spell.

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by NatePsychotic View Post
    People go on a PvE server but are forced to PvP? Kinda ridiculous. I'm on a PvP server and I accept the PvP that goes on but if it's PvE? Yeah that's fair enough to bitch, you chose that realm to avoid the ganking and should continue to have a non-ganking experience.
    They are not being forced to PVP, they did something stupid that got them flagged or they were ignorant and did something they did not know would get them flagged for pvp. In the latter case you learn from your mistake and don't make it again and if that means looking where you are going to land to attack a mob you need to make sure its not in aggro range of a pvp guard then thats a minor sacrifice.

    If you get flagged for PVP you have options, options which include continuing to do what you are doing and hope no one ganks you or teleporting back to home city where you are safe from pvp. You could also do what I did when I was flagged for pvp yesterday and fly straight up into the clouds where you cant be seen and waiting for 5 minutes for the flag to drop while getting snacks/water/bio taken care of. I didn't feel the need to come here and breathe fire because I didnt know that the guard would pvp flag me.

    If you die you have the options as well, you always have options unless you are too stupid to realise what your options are and continue doing what is getting you killed just so you can nerdrage about it on the forums.

    Unfortunately some people don't think their problems through and would rather rampage on forums about what activities they are forced to do that they don't like to do. Everyone is completely capable of clearing these dailies without getting PVP flagged if they use half of their brain.

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    Just did the quests just fine on PvE realm. I was not PVP marked from the beginning and had no troubles at all. Although you have to be careful not to target Alliance players, because if you do and you do hit them, well than you're marked.

    All is fair when you're marked for PvP.

  10. #150
    So where are all the queers telling him to go roll on a PVE server and that's what he gets for rolling PvP? good times.

    Being the best at wow pvp is like being the best retard at the special olympics - grats, the rest of the world is laughing at you.

    Sorry OP - looks like the company that makes the shit game you play doesn't give a crap about what you rolled. The people on this thread sum it up as - YOU ARE STUPID or DEAL WITH IT.

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    i like world pvp and all, but this is a bit silly. the horde town on my server is just constantly camped by 5-6 alliance, i still managed to do my dailies but it was a bit annoying. i dont mind getting attacked by 1 or 2 people while doing my dailies, but when theres whole groups just killing people over and over again in the town, the guards are more than useless. also, i dont know much about this patch but can someone tell me why the horde town is full of alliance and getting destroyed with really bad guards, but when i go to the alliance town the guards dismount me and hit a lot higher than the horde ones? i dont really know the story of this patch, guessing its something to do with that.
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    not had any issues so far, seen alot flagged just made sure I didn't hit them.
    Did have mount issue tho, seemed out of phase for a moment and dismounted me, fast reactions meant I got,slow fall in time.
    Last edited by Mythicalfury; 2012-11-28 at 09:55 PM.

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    can players dismount you now? i was just flying above the horde town, and a shammy targeted me, and i fell off my mount. combat log shows nothing other than "falling damaged you 167000"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleros View Post
    There's NPC town guards that are flagged that will also flag you if you attack them. They are not associated with any quest but people often pull them because they don't know any better. The best way to avoid attacking them? They're elite, don't attack elite mobs.
    And you don't even have to go anywhere near the opposing town to do the quests, if people chose to it's their problem.

    ---------- Post added 2012-11-28 at 10:51 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Playintrafic View Post
    Except for when horde guards randomly come and try to kill the fuck out of you. Then you get flagged even if you dont attack back, then a warlock you cant even see putts 100 dots on you.
    Don't go to the other town then, you don't need to.

    ---------- Post added 2012-11-28 at 10:52 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiral View Post
    fighting members of a different faction in a game who's main original basis was the conflict between said factions, oh the humanity! You've gone too far this time, Blizzard!
    Sure... NOT, you do know that PvP wasn't originally planned to be in WoW right?

  15. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by peggleftw View Post
    can players dismount you now? i was just flying above the horde town, and a shammy targeted me, and i fell off my mount. combat log shows nothing other than "falling damaged you 167000"
    There is an item, if you are flagged, that an opposing player can throw at you and knock you off your mount. This may have been the cause.

    http://www.wowhead.com/item=86584/hardened-shell

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastmasterGuardian View Post
    There is an item, if you are flagged, that an opposing player can throw at you and knock you off your mount. This may have been the cause.

    http://www.wowhead.com/item=86584/hardened-shell

    oh... thats a bit annoying.
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  17. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by peggleftw View Post
    can players dismount you now? i was just flying above the horde town, and a shammy targeted me, and i fell off my mount. combat log shows nothing other than "falling damaged you 167000"
    Turtle Shell. I have one on all my 90s specifically to shoot down hoverers. Especially while they are yelling gibberish over my Shrine.

    And yes, splashes flag, it's really hard to avoid when someone is all up in your business. It'd be fine if they were by themselves but cowards like that are only so brazen since they have 3-4 buddies waiting to help them. Solution, get 3-4 buddies of your own and force them to GY rez...

  18. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by Maklor View Post
    Sure... NOT, you do know that PvP wasn't originally planned to be in WoW right?
    Actually, the launch day of wow brought 43 PvP realms online in the US

    Source: http://www.wowpedia.org/Timeline_%28...of_Warcraft%29

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    Quote Originally Posted by peggleftw View Post
    oh... thats a bit annoying.
    I disagree. What was annoying are people hovering over your shrine/capital city and yelling crap and emoting while just out of range of spells (but not the awesome turtleshell)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Constellation View Post
    I disagree. What was annoying are people hovering over your shrine/capital city and yelling crap and emoting while just out of range of spells (but not the awesome turtleshell)
    but when im flying high above the horde town
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