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    [MW] MWs are now counted as ranged classes?

    I noticed today, I got targeted by ranged abilities from bosses. Had 2 tornados put on me by Blade Lord. And dread screeched like mad on empress. We didnt even notice where the extra damage was coming from till I had died to it after an explosion.

    Anything else changed?
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    The blade lord part could easily be bad ranged positioning.

    Didn't clear through heroic empress, that's for tomorrow, but didnt get any wind bombs on me or wind strikes.

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    Well we had 2 in melee range so its hard to say its a ranged fault. Need to look harder at tha. I also got targeted by 3 nightmare pools against Tsulong. But I was paranoid by then anyway so I stood out in ranged group which could attest to that. Id need to do feng and see what happens.

    I do have dread screech in melee however. Logs show that. I never bothered with the 5 yards before yesterday. Ugh. Im too scared to melee heal now.
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    We always been counted as melee, if they changed it in 5.1 (as in today) then they have missed announcing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tavin View Post
    We always been counted as melee, if they changed it in 5.1 (as in today) then they have missed announcing that.
    Or simply broke something. Or some boss abilities are bugged OR what we thought we knew as truth isn't truth.

    Different ways to see it.

    A) We're counted as melee
    B) Dread Screech can now target melee(Yet only me)
    C) Tornados can be cast on melee or a ranged was in melee(Possible)
    D) Nightmares can be cast on melee who are in ranged(Was too scared to go into melee this fight. But I did get targeted at range)

    ---------- Post added 2012-11-28 at 08:43 AM ----------

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...=10910&e=11469

    Ok. Can someone help me here. Now I'm feeling this wasn't my fault and something faulty happened. Over every attempt Ive NEVER taken any damage from dread screech. EVER. Except this one attempt. But I'm not proficient at perfectly parsing logs and I'm trying to see if I can somehow find who was affected by dread screech and if I merely took a tick from it.

    Edit: I only ask this because I was pretty much blamed for the night when this happened. 'Oh god, we've wasted x attempts and healing because you've been in melee'

    But that was before I got to see the logs. So now I want to defend myself and see if maybe its not just happenstance that puts me in the wrong place at the wrong time and someone else is really to blame.
    Last edited by Unspunreality; 2012-11-28 at 01:48 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unspunreality View Post
    Or simply broke something. Or some boss abilities are bugged OR what we thought we knew as truth isn't truth.

    Different ways to see it.

    A) We're counted as melee
    B) Dread Screech can now target melee(Yet only me)
    C) Tornados can be cast on melee or a ranged was in melee(Possible)
    D) Nightmares can be cast on melee who are in ranged(Was too scared to go into melee this fight. But I did get targeted at range)

    ---------- Post added 2012-11-28 at 08:43 AM ----------

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...=10910&e=11469

    Ok. Can someone help me here. Now I'm feeling this wasn't my fault and something faulty happened. Over every attempt Ive NEVER taken any damage from dread screech. EVER. Except this one attempt. But I'm not proficient at perfectly parsing logs and I'm trying to see if I can somehow find who was affected by dread screech and if I merely took a tick from it.

    Edit: I only ask this because I was pretty much blamed for the night when this happened. 'Oh god, we've wasted x attempts and healing because you've been in melee'

    But that was before I got to see the logs. So now I want to defend myself and see if maybe its not just happenstance that puts me in the wrong place at the wrong time and someone else is really to blame.
    By running two simple queries, it is easy to find it was not you, but your Holy Paladin Eprodigy, who for some reason stood in melee range:
    Code:
    [22:19:08.215] Grand Empress Shek'zeer Dread Screech Eprodigy 72100 (A: 689)
    [22:19:08.215] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Mericansauce 56420 (A: 24613)
    [22:19:08.215] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Bêtenoire 79161
    [22:19:08.426] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Viracocha 54417 (A: 25399)
    [22:19:08.426] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Sombrajin 81078 (A: 689)
    [22:19:08.426] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Extrodinaire 77714 (A: 689)
    [22:19:08.485] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Maxxron 64501 (A: 14473)
    [22:19:08.485] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Beastmöde 53678 (A: 25336)
    Code:
    [22:31:49.160] Grand Empress Shek'zeer Dread Screech Eprodigy 72403
    [22:31:49.542] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Vitaminlol 80251
    [22:31:49.625] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Beastmöde 37448 (O: 41454)
    [22:31:49.625] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Maxxron 14227 (O: 1615, A: 63367)
    [22:31:49.656] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Luxelle 79706
    [22:31:49.741] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Mericansauce 26483 (O: 55491)
    [22:31:49.741] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Sombrajin 5197 (O: 74537)
    [22:31:49.741] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Sommies 73357
    [22:31:49.741] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Viracocha 79914
    [22:31:49.741] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Grapesmasher 61305
    [22:31:49.850] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Munches 67919
    Code:
    [22:35:22.926] Grand Empress Shek'zeer Dread Screech Eprodigy 72622
    [22:35:22.926] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Capucine 80242
    [22:35:22.982] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Mericansauce 78636
    [22:35:23.129] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Vitaminlol 81003
    [22:35:23.206] Unknown Dread Screech Waves Sombrajin 79219
    This repeats in all of your wipes there.
    Dread Screech : original spell, cast only on ranged.
    Dread Screech Wave: spell damaging anyone standing near person hit by Dread Screech.

    If you want to check for yourself, open log editor for all your wipes, click Paste and insert this:

    Code:
    [{"spellNames": ["Dread Screech"]}, {"spellNames": ["Dread Screech Waves"]}]
    The one pull where you got Dread Screech on yourself was probably wipe, where all ranged were dead.
    Last edited by Brenx; 2012-11-28 at 02:41 PM.

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    Id ask to have your babies but that'd be pushing it.

    So it seems like a case of sky is falling and MW are still considered melee unless someone else can say otherwise.
    I do not fear death. It's just dreaming in silence.

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    The one ability i know that would never be put on a melee or MW monk would be amber resin from Wind lord so if we're getting that now then we're counted as ranged. If not i don't think anything has changed. I'll check personally next time I fight him

    ---------- Post added 2012-11-28 at 11:13 PM ----------

    Just killed wind lord and didn't receive resin, So i don't think anything has changed.

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