Yes they are when it comes to internal UN rules and regulations. More so the UNGA resolutions may non-binding on members states but they have effective shown that 179 nations consider Palestine a state on its pre-1967 borders. They have effective shown their own position as individual states.
You can't fix stupid. But damn it you can troll it!
UNITED NATIONS — Just nine nations voted against the Palestinian Authority's upgrade to nonvoting observer state status, which passed the General Assembly 138-9, with 41 abstentions.
Voting "no" Thursday were Israel, the United States and Canada, joined by the Czech Republic, Panama and several Pacific island nations: Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru and Palau. The Pacific nations typically support the U.S. and Israel at the U.N. on key General Assembly resolutions.
And there we go, Palestine is now an observer state in the UN.
The Palestinian's election of terrorists is all the reason that is needed regardless of what reason is actually cited.
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.
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Israel has just announced it is going to build 3000 homes on occupied soil. Utter scum.
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1) Palestine is currently governed by a US designated terrorist group
2) Palestine continuously attacks one of our primary allies launching thousands of rockets into their country then crying when Israel retaliates
3) The US designated terrorist group is supported by other groups that have very clearly stated it is their goal to destroy our ally.
4) With the boarder dispute, recognizing a Palestinian state would lead to further problems over the boarde
for these reasons and I am sure many more, the US resists. There are many ignorant posts on this forumn. I don't hold Israel blameless, but they are the US' ally and are under constant attack.
Most countries see what this is, and they made their decision in the UN. Give Palestinians legitimacy and stop the economic sanctions and blockades of their ports and let their economy improve so the young Palestinians won't have animosity towards the US and Israel.
1) its an internal affair.
2) they have no natural resources we want or more accurately no US based corporation wants.
3) The Palestinians had there shot as a nation and turned it down.
good luck Palestine, lets hope you keep pushing as the US/Israeli angle is clearly to just delay and prevaricate until its all too late and you have nothing left. the vast majority of the UN clearly sees Israel for what it is. your time will come.
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This conflict is very very grey.
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But Hamas will not stop even if Palestine is recognized. I can promise you, without a shadow of a doubt, that they would continue. Their mission is not over until every jewish man, woman and child are dead or dying.
hopefully palestine as a member of the UN will give them some protection from the encroachment and oppression of Israel.
Israel "throwing a tanturm" after yestarday's results.
I wonder why people are saying that the Israeli authorities are rational when they're acting exactly like a 5 years old kid in kindergarten. That really makes you wonder about the legitimacy of thier other claims.
EDIT: ME corrospendent discussing the matter http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20558817
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This person has acknowldged Israel as a state yasterday which is more than what Israel's PM did or will ever do ""Sixty-five years ago on this day, the United Nations General Assembly adopted resolution 181, which partitioned the land of historic Palestine into two states and became the birth certificate for Israel," Mr Abbas said shortly before the vote in New York."
Didn't earlier this year the US openly told the world that we would back Israel and comdemn the Palestinians for attacking Israel? so I think we just lived up to that promise....I think!??
Well from what I understand of it. After WWII the U.S. and England decided in all their postwar wisdom to do a land grab. They grabbed land from Palestinians or w/e they called themselves at that time. The U.S and U.K. Foreign policies from that point onward were to support their decision. To this day the U.S. and U.K. Refuse to see it as 60 plus years of extremely bad foreign policy. They refuse to see their land grab as a mistake.
60+ years of war and atrocities = you probably made the wrong decision.
What I cannot understand is that after what jewish people faced during WWII(the shear disgusting brutality, inhuman pain suffering and human losses.), that they did not miss a beat and did it to another group of people over the last 60 years.