Relic of Xuen vs. Terror in the Mists vs. Bottle of Infinite Stars

[Namarus]

you lost at MOST 1 arcane shot which does less damage then the barrage does during that GCD.

and you don't "lose" and autoshot you pause it so if you are totally terrible and pause it right before teh auto fire you might lose a small bit of autoshot damage however if you fire it after an auto shot its no big deal...funny thing is people used to play hunters when EVERYTHING paused auto shots, i guess you never played when shot weaving was something everyone naturally did.

No, you have lost two. I don't get to ask my raid to use lust at the perfect time to use barrage. I don't think that anyone is disputing your numbers concerning AOE situations, but on Single target, sorry but no. As for weaving shots I know perfectly well how to do that. The point being that since the swing timer, and the channel are the exact same duration you cannot help but delay your autoshot even slightly.

Anyway enough derailing of this thread.

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So nobody thinks that the static agi + Crit trinket from the Dominance Offensive is any good?

[Nemesis003]

No, you have lost two. I don't get to ask my raid to use lust at the perfect time to use barrage. I don't think that anyone is disputing your numbers concerning AOE situations, but on Single target, sorry but no. As for weaving shots I know perfectly well how to do that. The point being that since the swing timer, and the channel are the exact same duration you cannot help but delay your autoshot even slightly.

Anyway enough derailing of this thread.

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So nobody thinks that the static agi + Crit trinket from the Dominance Offensive is any good?

BM gets the biggest bang from enginnering and the glove tinker pops a 20 sec cooldown on "on use" trinkets... so enginnering and non proc trinkets do not play well

[Tehstool]

BM gets the biggest bang from enginnering and the glove tinker pops a 20 sec cooldown on "on use" trinkets... so enginnering and non proc trinkets do not play well

You also get more crit from N TiTM if you average it out. Synapse springs also puts a 10 second CD on on use trinkets when used as it lasts 10 seconds not 20.

[TheTrueM4gg0t]

IMO its really stupid that trinkets have so different values depending on what profession you have. Its just stupid that ingis cant use their trinkets.
Okey, ingi is great for BM, got that. but how does the trinket compare for non-Ing BMs?
Havent got access to heroic trinkets yet, so upgraded Relic + getting areowflight and upgrading seems a good idea, right?

[eschatological]

I think an upgraded Bottle would be better than an upgraded Arrowflight.

[lolipopp]

From my surv point of View and i think i am right ...the hc bottle is last ...static agl > all !

[Nemesis003]

From my surv point of View and i think i am right ...the hc bottle is last ...static agl > all !

you also think SV is better single target then BM....

[lolipopp]

cuz it is LOL nabcake ;p

[Nemesis003]

cuz it is LOL nabcake ;p

every good hunter knows BM is better single target...

[Hayro1]

S/he said nabcake lol.

[karmaqt]

Wow, this thread has been derailed so many times in so many different ways.

At this point I'm considering using Normal Terror over the Relic just because the proc on crit chance is just so awful. There's really nothing worse than having your Relic not proc until you've finished with both BW's, leaving your DPS in the dust for pretty much the entire fight.