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But why so light on them and so hard on this guy? They have clearly insulted and offended more people than this guy did, and they had a history of doing it that stretched back more than a single year. Furthermore, their previous offenses were much more serious by American standards than this guy's history of harassing the girl (Pussy Riot's public orgy stint alone would have earned them hard prison time in USA).
And yes, the technical reason for which this guy was jailed was the threat he made to the mother. However we both know the judge used his position to slam the book on the guy as an "example" - giving him maximum allowed sentence under the guidelines for a very, very very minor offense (a minor misdemeanor charge). This is no different than the book being slammed on PR to set examples. They were arrested on a charge (hooliganism) no more serious than this guy was.
Putin? What does Putin have to do with anything? "PR" insulted a large majority of Russian people, not Putin.Wait, are you comparing Putin to a little girl? Putin is the president who changed laws to be president ... in any case - he's a public figure.
Abuse of little girls is quite different than anything that anyone can do to Putin.
Yeah i find that what he did was immature and wrong, but i dont think he should go to jail for it.
There's also that I generally cannot help but sympathise with anyone who is disproportionally punished for their actions.
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But as I keep saying, I do not consider "insulting/offending" people as justification for imprisonment. Moreover, I make a distinction between targetting a specific private citizen, and generally causing offense to the public.They have clearly insulted and offended more people than this guy did
How, pray tell, do we know that?And yes, the technical reason for which this guy was jailed was the threat he made to the mother. However we both know the judge used his position to slam the book on the guy as an "example" - giving him maximum allowed sentence under the guidelines for a very, very very minor offense (a minor misdemeanor charge).
If being an asshole was a crime, prisons would be a lot more crowded.
I made fun of two crippled children today in this man's honor, exercising my freedom of speech in doing so.
No reason to post something like this unless you just want to get a reaction out of people, please don't troll
Last edited by Anakso; 2012-12-01 at 06:26 AM.
I don't think jail was the answer but that really is a bit of karma there :P
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I think it's a bad lesson; the world is full of dicks, and they won't all go to jail for making fun you. Better learn sooner rather than later.
What really should've happened is the girl's dad and the asshat who's now in jail just should've fist-a-cuffed it out like men.
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When I grew up, we had a saying, it was "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me".
I'm excited to see the world in 2050 when it's run by a bunch of babies who get offended by name calling.
Also, when did jail become "the place where we send people to leech tax dollars because they messed up"? Why am I wasting my tax dollars to feed, house, and clothe some douche because he upset a crippled child?
Last edited by Lassira; 2012-12-01 at 06:05 AM.
If verbal abuse is racist, homophobic or prejudiced on grounds of disability then they fall under the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 and the Criminal Justice Act 2003.
It's a criminal offense and he went to jail for it. Maybe he'll learn his lesson.
I can see 90% if you include threatening to fire or give some disciplinary action and such, but I'd be surprised if 90% of people have threatened someone with violence. I never have, doubt I ever will. No reason to go there.
He deserved it. Really how can people be such an asshole? He shouldn't have gone to jail but he should have been punched in his face by someone around there. He may have not commited a crime but I don't feel sorry at all for trash like this.
Evidence required..If there is a reason to believe that he will actually do it, yes, there should be something done about it, otherwise no. If everyone who ever threatened someone went to jail, 90% of people would be inmates. What the hell people?!
OT: Jailing people for being offensive...god, this really is a slippery slope. While this man was clearly out of line, you've gotta ask yourself, if we start doing this where does it end? Where do we draw the line?