Brawler's Guild Invites, Herb and Ore Reduction, LFR Boss Counter, Blue Posts, IPL5

[Cipero]

In fact, when I say to people, WoW was at its peak mid-wrath ... that is because ICC was still damn good, but that is when the community really started taking the faster track on the downward spiral of selfishness and doing things for the wrong reason ... and I place a heavier burden on Blizz, their design, but the community itself did itself in.

You could still find a decent proportion of the community back then, who paid more attention to skill than gear, because gear will come, natural skill is harder to find. You'd take 5 mins and go to the dummies and watch their rotation, inspect their gear, and discuss what and why they did what they did, possibly coach them, or wish them luck in the future. Now it is all nub this, herpes derpes that, and gear became the reason for raiding, not because it is fun, or you enjoy your raid group. Everyone wants to be a top world guild, and want it now ... guild hopping because they think it can't be them, or mad because they wipe a few times.

It is a shame to see. It is exactly the reason LFR/LFD has people drop out so much, the piece of gear didn't drop, so they drop. They don't run it for the content, for fun ... the run it simply because they feel the need, and in the end, when you play for the wrong reasons, your attitude shows, and your dedication lacks, and you just want to get shit done and gtfo.

My best memories, and I bet many long time players memories, won't be slaughtering LFR, or a quick clear of content ... but times they wiped and struggled with stuff, with a group of people they enjoyed playing with, and the joy of eventually defeating their foes. This is why BC and vanilla nostalgia is so high ... because the community was in better shape, and the reason you played was a bit different. Gear was a means to and end, not the reason to play.

I quit wow a couple of months ago. This part you said pretty much sums up why. It just isn't the same anymore and I don't ever see it going back to that way. And what you said about the skill part was dead on accurate. That's actually how I met most of the people I ended up spending time with in-game and raiding with. The game's community now tho is just awful, not that everyone is personally awful, but it's just infested with many people who are just not very good, not very nice, and pretty much just provide nothing to the community besides negativity.

All in all, it was a good run. I am glad I stepped away though.

[dendory]

The LFR change is completely stupid. Even if you get a fresh run after killing last boss, who's going to stay and kill the 3rd boss a second time? I just leave after the second boss, of course. So now every group is going to have a massive amount of people leaving before last boss...

[Ferrouswheel]

The LFR change is completely stupid. Even if you get a fresh run after killing last boss, who's going to stay and kill the 3rd boss a second time? I just leave after the second boss, of course. So now every group is going to have a massive amount of people leaving before last boss...

How does that make it stupid? It's exactly the same as before. Oh noes gais I'm OCD and need to kill the bosses in order. You'll get over it. One time I was on the last boss, we needed a healer. We could hear the requeue noise over and over. I'd look up and see it searching for a healer, then saying it found one and waiting for them to accept and they would deny and this went on for five minutes. It was late at night. Finally a healer zones in and I say, "took you 5 minutes to finally accept eh?" and he goes, "how did you know?". This change stops that crap.

[zadtrp]

That's hilarious, you don't understand the economy in Wow at all.
You can farm half as much for more profit, or despite your ignorant whining, you can farm the same amount and make twice as much or more!! Amazing, please learn the basics of economics, will take you far in the game and real life.

You need to not be so short sighted. This has nothing to do with economics. Maybe he doesn't sell what he farms but uses them for raid flasks etc. Now he does have to farm even longer to get the pots/flasks he needs for the week. Not being so short sighted will take you far in the game and real life.

[nafiy]

mages should be nerfed 100 years ago,it's coming toooo late

[Jekerdud]

You covered LoL for IPL5, but there are a TON of WoW players that love playing/watching Starcraft 2. Next time you cover an event, why not cover all games at the event? I know you'd argue that TeamLiquid.net covers SC2 good on it's own, since it is the SC2 equivalent to MMO-Champ, but you could catch something that TL doesn't, such a a great game that isn't on the main stream.