There is no pros and excuses of being a clicker. It's just bad. End of story.
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And this says nothing of the fact that your eyes are on your curson instead of the fight and that you have to freaking keyboard turn or stop using your abilities if you want to move.
There's still an extra step in there over mouseover binds. I suppose "only" isn't accurate, but "best" (in a purely objective sense) certainly is.
its extremely hard to click and move at the same time
Been hotkeying and binding my spells since vanilla. I have a habbit where I click my middle spells sometimes. I dunno why, I just do. I don't know how people could click everything on their bar in PvE or PvP. Like someone said in PvE you're focusing more on your clicks and PvP you're gonna be key board turning.
Now the effectiveness of each vary according to how used to it you are. Exceptional keyboard turners/clickers can outplay above average keybinders/mouse turners most times. But an exceptional mouse turner/keybinder probably has an advantage over an exceptional keyboard turner/clicker.
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Anyways, 9 times out of 10 your eyes aren't going to be on the encounter no matter what as you're watching various cues on your UI for when abilities come off CD or on DBM announcements.
Last edited by Flaks; 2012-12-03 at 10:39 PM.
Originally Posted by High Overlord Saurfangi7-860 @2.8GHz | Radeon HD 7770 | 8GB DDR3-1333MHz | Corsair CX 430W |
I for one can't click buttons faster than the GCD, and I don't have a good memory for where they are, which also lowers my reaction time.
But I can press buttons as fast as the GCD, faster for abilities that are off the GCD. And I have a good memory for keybinds. Its funny because I'd have trouble listing my keybinds, but no problem pressing them in combat when I need them. Muscle memory.
Things like mounts and buffs and whatnot that I don't need in combat don't get bound. But combat abilities always get bound.
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Clicking takes longer, is inaccurate because your hand will shake when you are trying to click something fast and it takes time to put the mouse above the correct icon.
Furthermore clicking really hampers your movement(mouse is used to turn screens. Can't do that while clicking)
There's absolutely nothing wrong with clicking if:
1. You are pulling your weight on DPS
2. You are not dying to stupid stuff
3. You are doing your job contributing to the group
If your play style is working for what you want to accomplish, there's no reason to change if you don't want to. You should give keybinding a try if you're interested in it and get a feel for it and decide how you prefer playing, I says.
A friend of mine and I both prefer clicking after years of keyboard playing on EQ and FF XI. Clicking just felt more active playing WoW for a while. My friend, however, is able to click by moving the mouse over the appropriate key without looking. He just has the muscle memory to move the mouse the right distance for each press in his rotation. As a tank, he was often just sitting there looking a boss in the face anyway. Though, that was when we had rotations. Some classes are a little more whack a mole with procs now
I frequently find myself clicking and hovering over the next ability I need to hit just briefly for the cooldown to finish. I could hit a keybind faster, but....if GCD isn't up yet what's the point? But I use kind of a combination. If I need quick turns or quick movements (which I don't find is almost EVER necessary raiding. Most times I need that quick of a turn, it's for a 180 and run situation which means rotate to strafe and resume clicks or full 180 and run in which case you can't shoot what you aren't facing.
I do, however, feel that keybinds are near essential to be a top notch "standing on the pile of enemies" PvP player. Just seems like the twitch reaction would be more necessary there.
But I don't PvP and I pull my weight in the raid I'm in, which isn't top notch cutting edge, but it's a group I really enjoy playing with and thus my playstyle works for me....and has shocked some of them because they had no clue I was clickin' the ol' buttons.
Last edited by Faroth; 2012-12-03 at 10:48 PM.
"There is good and evil in this world; we must find the black and white in the gray."
Unlike keybinds (which are on/off) you have left/right/middle/double/single clicks allowing for more options in a single "button".
Clicking can be used anywhere and not just action bars, you might even be able to click something and perform an action that you would not be able to otherwise (via keys)
You cannot use your mouse to "look/move" while clicking
Clicking is slower as you must move your mouse to the button/action area
Clicking can be less accurate as your action speed increases, moving your mouse and clicking before you should might end up performing a different action or turn out to be a "drag" instead of a click... (so many times I accidentally moved spells instead of clicking).
The pro SC players don't get to 300 APM by not using keybinds.
Last edited by Aquamonkey; 2012-12-03 at 10:56 PM.
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
especially for healers in fights where people will move around a lot and are not always in your range.
The main benefit from keybinds is that it frees the mouse purely for camera usage and movement.
Nine times out of ten, my fingers are already on the button I need to push. My "home row" are the keys 7 (pinky), 8 (ring), 9 (middle) and 0 (index). I'm a bit weird as I move everything that people normally use the left side of the keyboard for to the right (since I like hitting shift with my thumb). Those four buttons are going to represent the four abilities that make up 75-80% of the actions I take. From there, I radiate outward by degrees of use. My next most used skill might be on key - or 6 while a long CD might be on key 4.
All that means that the majority of the time, my finger is already over the button I need to press. You cannot convincingly argue that your mouse is anything more than occasionally on the button you need to press. And, anytime you need to move, your mouse will be nowhere near the skill you're supposed to be using. Oh, and by the way, I did notice that you failed to address the complete inability a clicker has of activating abilities while they move.
When I define "the encounter" I mean the whole encounter - including Boss Mod queues. How, for example, can you watch your 10y range finder, your boss warning and see who you need to dispell on Grid if your eyes are following your mouse pointer from ability to ability?Anyways, 9 times out of 10 your eyes aren't going to be on the encounter no matter what as you're watching various cues on your UI for when abilities come off CD or on DBM announcements.
Last edited by Firecrest; 2012-12-03 at 11:17 PM.
After keybinding everything, and I mean everything there is no chance I'd want to go back. Its so much more fluid now, and I can pay attention at where im looking 99% of the time.