the simple fact is, there is nothing wrong with our presence in the gulf. would you rather we not be there so iran is free to do what they please in the region? what would be the benefit if the united states stopped policing the world? who else is going to step in? you kidding me? theres no country in the world that could/would step up to the plate to take over that large of a responsibility.
Also, proliferation of nuclear weapons is bad, mmmkay.
You know in most of these thread eventually the nuclear issue comes up, which it has here already, and I keep wondering:
How the hell the only country who has ever used the fucking bomb and still has thousands of them gets to be the nuclear bomb police?!
I've walked the realms of the dead. I have seen the infinite dark. Nothing you say. Or do. Could possibly frighten me.We are not monsters! We are not the mindless wretches of a ghoul army! NO! We are a force even more terrifying! We are the chill in a coward's spine! We are the instruments of an unyielding ire! WE ARE THE FORSAKEN!Those who do not stand with the Forsaken stand against them. And those who stand against the Forsaken will not stand long.
The Eu butthurt in this thread is amazingly strong.
On topic: Is anyone really surprised that the U.S. is flying drones over Iran? You guys are acting like this means full-scale invasion or some shit. My favorite part of this thread is Kangodo providing zero sources as usual, but hey if it helps your argument and no one calls you on it lying always works!
But what do you want to discuss: That Iran has the right to nuclear weapons or that they aren't working on it?Im not saying that US have acted right on its past policies everytime or anything but I just cant see how it would be good thing if Iran would get a nuclear weapon.
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No matter who you are, you shouldn't be able to circumvent the official channels and get away with it.
If Iran was flying drones in US airspace then I'd imagine there would be several air bases in Iran under plumes of smoke by now.
Drones and stealth aircrafts are expensive and the loss of a few of them would make your generals think twice.
And dont think Iran can't and won't fight back. As said before, Iran isn't Iraq nor Afghanistan. Its a fully sustainable country full of resources that has been on the alert from you guys a good few years now.
Mind you, i dont doubt the destructive force of the USA army.
I just think you shouldnt get the last 2 events, iraq and afghanistan as an example.
For two reason.
First neither of them had a proper army able to counter your aircraft attacks.
Second because in both cases you showed how, yes, things go amazingly easy when, before a ground invasion, you airstrike the place to oblivion.
when it comes down to a ground invasion, even a run down iraq, hell even afghanistan, with guerrilla tactics, can hold you in a headlock, while public opinion drops dramatically.
Think how it would drop if you had to fight a proper army, old school ground invasion. People just wont accept it.
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Last edited by Djalil; 2012-12-05 at 10:25 AM.