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    zimmerman

    stalked, drove up, got out, harassed, had a struggle with the kid, and eventually killed the kid.


    the kid, walkin mindin his own business

    it is obvious who was the aggressor, who initiated conflict. It was not the kid, who acted in self defense.

    these are facts.

    the rest is bullshit
    Last edited by GennGreymane; 2012-12-04 at 04:08 PM.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    Zimmerman was a fat bastard that couldnt chase anyone on foot.
    Good thing he was in a car while he was stalking the kid?

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    zimmerman

    stalked, drove up, got out, harassed, had a struggle with the kid, and eventually killed the kid.


    the kid, walkin mindin his own business

    it is obvious who was the aggressor, who initiated conflict. It was not the kid who acted in self defense.

    these are facts.

    the rest is bullshit
    Well the law is kinda in disagreement with you there, hence the need for a trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaykaywhy View Post
    Brilliant defense strategy. You should be a lawyer.
    "I'm innocent because the media used mean pictures of me."
    More like they started using pictures of trayvon when he was twelve to spin the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    No, but it supports what he has been saying all along and proves that "Little" Trayvon was not the weak innocent child the media made him out to be.
    It doesn't matter if Treyvon was a weak, innocent child, or a professional wrestler. The physical aptitude of the victim doesn't exculpate a criminal.

    Even if Treyvon attacked him, what evidence do you have that Treyvon's attack wasn't in self-defense? While there hasn't been any evidence of physical harm to Treyvon, aside from the shooting, Zimmerman could have confronted Treyvon with his gun pointed at Treyvon.

    If that is the case (and I'm not saying it is, merely that it's plausible), it's odd to think that Treyvon can't defend himself against an armed individual using punches and kicks, while Zimmerman can defend himself by shooting Treyvon, in a situation that Zimmerman created for himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    Well the law is kinda in disagreement with you there, hence the need for a trial.
    the law has to do with something else, the stand your ground. which complicates matters.

    if this had happened in a state that did not have stand your ground. It would be a closed case by now

    Stand your ground only requires the person have reason. THat is dangerously vague.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    Well the law is kinda in disagreement with you there, hence the need for a trial.
    Everyone gets a trial even if they are caught on video tape committing the crime, and have 100 witnesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moadar View Post
    More like they started using pictures of trayvon when he was twelve to spin the situation.
    You mean they used his baby pictures, while the state was sitting on this picture for more than six months.

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    i find it hard to beleive, that

    zimmerman could be on the ground being beat, trying his best to reach for a gun to shoot the kid.

    what is more lilkly, an initial physical confrontation where the kid got in a good punch, zimmerman reacted pulled out his gun and fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moadar View Post
    More like they started using pictures of trayvon when he was twelve to spin the situation.
    And what the media does has no bearing on the innocence or guilt of the defendant.

    Your original statement of "It was obvious who was right and wrong when the media started using old pictures to manipulate people's perception." is patently false.

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    Once again the court of public opinion has convicted an innocent man because people couldn't wait for all the evidence to be released.

    Who needs evidence when we have a media just begging for a sensational story to put on page one.
    It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    i find it hard to beleive, that

    zimmerman could be on the ground being beat, trying his best to reach for a gun to shoot the kid.

    what is more lilkly, an initial physical confrontation where the kid got in a good punch, zimmerman reacted pulled out his gun and fired.
    So now we're just outright ignoring the facts of the case and conjuring up some new ones?

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    Why did it take so long for that picture to appear? If it had been shown much earlier then things could have gone differently. THe Trayvon/Zimmerman case is a good example how media twists things. They used a photo of Trayvon when he was several years younger to make him look more innocent. They portrayed him as a sweet child, but other sources say quite the opposite. Meanwhile, Zimmerman is portrayed as a racist.

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    Everyone gets a trial even if they are caught on video tape committing the crime, and have 100 witnesses.
    Yes, and it is a good thing otherwise we get people condemning others using emotion to judge them.

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    The picture doesn't really prove anything, except that he was inured.

    We already knew that when the story came out....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    So now we're just outright ignoring the facts of the case and conjuring up some new ones?
    definite facts of the case

    Zimmerman stalked this kid in a vehicle
    Zimmerman called police, the operator told him not to act, he did so any way
    he confronts the kid
    the kid was really not doing anything illegal or wrong
    the kid is shot
    kid is dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorri View Post
    Why did it take so long for that picture to appear? If it had been shown much earlier then things could have gone differently. THe Trayvon/Zimmerman case is a good example how media twists things. They used a photo of Trayvon when he was several years younger to make him look more innocent. They portrayed him as a sweet child, but other sources say quite the opposite. Meanwhile, Zimmerman is portrayed as a racist.
    i dont care why the media did this

    had the kid been shown as a large guy made his death less valid? made it more ok to shoot and kill him for doing nothing wrong? the public does not decide this case, the judge/jury do. they have the real evidence, they have his actual images.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    Zimmerman was a fat bastard that couldnt chase anyone on foot.
    All the more reason not to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    the kid was really not doing anything illegal or wrong
    Last I checked charging someone and subsequently engaging them in a physical altercation is assault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post

    the kid was really not doing anything illegal or wrong
    According to Zimmermen walking in the rain is wrong. Beware guys, walking in the rain is a valid excuse for stalking and shooting you!

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    you act as if the media turned this case around,

    no

    the jury and the trail have all of the evidence. they do not go on what they heard in the media. why would they, they have the real stuff in front of them.

    hell if the media mattered casey anthony would be in a cell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    Last I checked charging someone and subsequently engaging them in a physical altercation is assault.
    i highly doubt this was the case. this is also very unlikely and a scenario presented by the lawyers of zimmerman in order to justify his shooting.

    there is no actual pictorial evidence of this confrontation, this what you present is only a reality fabricated by lawyers.

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