Urti, it's not a double standard. It's common sense. Cutting the foreskin of a male does not affect his future pleasure / etc. What they do to females is wrong, and if you can't understand the difference, perhaps you shouldn't have an input on what's right or wrong. There is a distinct difference in what they do to a woman and what they do to a man. One can be beneficial, the other never will be.
I don't care if a male is circumcised or not circumcised, I won't judge the decision to be right or wrong. I don't think there is anything wrong with male circumcision, but I don't care if you get it done or not. We got it done for my boy because of our feelings that it would help his future be healthier.
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mu·ti·lat·ed, mu·ti·lat·ing, mu·ti·lates
1. To deprive of a limb or an essential part; cripple.
2. To disfigure by damaging irreparably: mutilate a statue. See Synonyms at batter1.
3. To make imperfect by excising or altering parts.
I'm not missing a limb or essential part. My penis works just fine thank you.
It is not disfigured or damaged irreparably - see above.
And it is not 'imperfect' any more than anyone else's.
You need to read the definition of words before you attempt to use them.
Using the term 'mutilation' is painting a large population of men as being somehow damaged, that something about their body is wrong.
That is my point of contention.
I'm not religious, but I've thought about getting circumcision myself. The skin is a wee bit too small for my glans when it erects.
Other than that, it seems that countries that do religious Circumcision have 90% lower rates of Cervical cancer.
It made me think that it might be a good choice for both me and the miss's
Haven't done it so far though.
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It's more than strawman, it's just ridonculous. You're comparing circumcision as something on the same level of abortion, like we're... aborting the foreskin? It's apples to oranges, it just doesn't make sense.
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You're free to do whatever. Normal? Hardly. You're just falling under the pressure of society, because it's common practice in the US. Go ahead and mutilate your kid. A great father rises.
How exactly does a woman get cancer from an uncircumcised penis?Circumcision have 90% lower rates of Cervical cancer.
You're suggesting that if circumcision isn't okay, then abortion shouldn't be. Those issues have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with one another and you're bringing it up in an effort to appeal to emotion / some other bollocks. It's the definition of a strawman argument. You're avoiding attacking the person's main argument by creating something else to relate it to and attacking that instead, hence not defeating the actually argument. It's a logical fallacy.I just find it weird to see people calling it mutilation when someome gets circumciced But i'm sure a lot of those people find abortion ok. These are diffrent subjects i know But if circumcision isn't ok the other one shouldn't be ok at all.
Yeah, because there is scientific information to back this claim up. Oh wait, no there isn't. In fact, there is no significant difference in sensitivity.
Yeah, I'm sure the research organizations that don't perform circumcisions or get money from them are just making shit up.Reputable? THEY SELL THE FORESKIN TISSUE FOR RESEARCH. THEY GET MONEY FROM IT. DAMN STRAIGHT THEY SAY IT'S GOOD.
Get your head out of the sand.
He implied that the body is perfect and that changing it in any way is bad, yet there are about a million and one procedures that change the body because of its flaws.
A strawman is when you misrepresent your opponent's argument. His is closer to a red herring.
I think it should be a boy own choice when he hits 12 years old, if were just talking about Jewish traditions here,
Same as I agree, that christans shouldn't have their children baptized or christened until their 16 years old
It should be a personnal choice
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Well as i said they are 2 diffrent subjects i guess you missed that part. I'm talking about what is fair and what isn't.
I hope i'm still allowed to have my own opinion in some matters I'm talking about you getting to decide what to do for others in that way you do not think its the same?
I'm also not for circumcision to begin with nor am i against it. I don't see any need to make it illegal. As far as i knowledge goes it is somewhat fixable if you were to dislike what has been done to you. How the results are no idea
Honestly, I'm circumcised and I don't really care. I don't remember it happening nor do I have any issue with being circumcised (I'm actually kind of glad as I've always thought uncut penises looked... odd - probably because I grew up cut, but still). If it were a traumatic experience that haunted the boy for the rest of his life I might take issue with it, but seeing as you can live a perfectly "normal" (quotations since the definition of the term varies) life (both generally and sexually) being circumcised, I don't see it as a big deal. I can't help but feel that calling it mutilation, while accurate, also carries a needlessly fearful connotation. When most people think mutilation I don't think they jump to foreskin being removed, but to things like limbs being removed.