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    Quote Originally Posted by loki504 View Post
    but how can alliance find pandaria first when horde has a whole freaking base in there? but also horde need to fight a alliance base.
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    well how i see it

    The first outsiders to reach Pandaria are Anduin and whoever was with him.
    Then some Horde and Alliance forces arrive and promptly set up shop, then more forces including the players themselves arrive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nindoriel View Post
    I'm not sure if it was mentioned anywhere or if it's just my own theory, but I think Shaohao didn't want his Pandaren to be isolated from the rest of the world anymore.
    maybe
    I believe it was the Jade Serpent who said the Mists must have parted at this point and time for some reason other than pure chance
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    Quote Originally Posted by timtim89 View Post
    pretty sure we havnt discovered all the islands on our plant why should it be any different for WoW?
    Pretty sure we have. There are these things called satellites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velshin View Post
    If that's 100% true then why there was like almost no clue about it durning the Cataclysm storyline? I know maybe they were busy with Deathwing and the Twilight hammer but still...there is no way in hell that all of Azeroth society were just focusing on nothing but Deathwing got what I mean?
    Besides the fack that he tried to destroy the entire planet? no not at all focused on that, the aspects helped to and even lost there power in the prosses...

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    Frankly the answer is that we don't know yet because we have not been told. Blizzard has not revealed what caused the mist to go away, a lot of people suppose it was when Deathwing died and the dragon aspects lost their power but it was the Panderan emperor who misted the island and as far as we know had no connection with the dragon flights. They suggested it and a lot of people snatched that football up and ran down the field towards the endzone. There is no solid reason as of yet revealed by Blizzard. There are many things about Pandaria that we dont know yet because it has not been revealed.

    Where did the Panderan come from? The mogu evolved in the sacred pools, they created the Grummlies, forced the lizards to do their killing and the Jin-Yu evolved in the sacred pools from murlocs. The sacred pools are the same as the well of eternity which evolved trolls into night elves. But you don't see any panda's on the entire continent and panderan don't have any stories that say how they became pandaren.

    The lore walker says that Mogu have not had magical abilities for centuries but suddenly they are now casting magic spells? They also seem to come back from extinction the moment the Sha return?

    We dont know how long the Sha of Fear has been manipulating the Mantid before we arrived, logical inspection would say we did not cause that sha to escape when we arrived. It would take too long to get all set up like that. There are also the sha of doubt in the first few quests.

    There is a 7th Sha that has not exposed itself, which tells me its a tricky one. Some Tin foil hats have deduced that it is the Sha of Paranoia.

    Why are the Mantid attacking Ninzao temple? Does not make any sense to be drawn there unless there is some reason to do so. Why would the Sha of Terror want that temple?

    The shattering happens long before Theramore but chronologically speaking Theramore happens before the mists clear. They have yet to absolutely define whats going on.

    One thing that is sure, the sacred pools are remnants of the Well Of Eternity and it was covered in Mist to keep an army of green fire from taking pandaria. Now that the mist is gone it is pretty sure that Sargeras will notice it again, and the 7 Sha will return to their original form, an old god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedsterz View Post
    Cataclysm.
    It is not the Catacylsm, the Cataclysm never happened. Deathwing was suppose to cause the Cataclysm but we stopped him. You mean the Shattering. The Cataclysm was a spell that Deathwing tries to cast while you are trimming his toe nails.
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    If you have he behind the scenes DvD from the CE of MOP Kosak goes to explain the actual reason why the Mists parted will be explored across the entire expansion.

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    The Shattering spread the mists. And nobody knew because Azeroth was trying to fight a dragon that was planning to kill all. There isn't much wish to explore the seas when there's a dragon out there.
    Though I do wonder, why didn't Deathwing see Pandaria and go burn some of it too?
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    How come the Americas weren't "discovered" for so long? Someone had to run into it first.

    (in quotes because the Vikings and nomadic Asiatic peoples that crossed the Bering Straight land bridge don't count)
    I doubt the vikings crossed the Bering Straight. And why shouldn't they count?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnorei View Post
    The Shattering spread the mists. And nobody knew because Azeroth was trying to fight a dragon that was planning to kill all. There isn't much wish to explore the seas when there's a dragon out there.
    Though I do wonder, why didn't Deathwing see Pandaria and go burn some of it too?

    I doubt the vikings crossed the Bering Straight. And why shouldn't they count?
    The parting of the Mists may have been a progressive thing.

    Deathwing, if you can safely assume so, was probably experimenting and planning out the Hour of Twilight, and never really saw a need to fly so far down South.

    Thus, because of that, he never even noticed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destil View Post
    The parting of the Mists may have been a progressive thing.

    Deathwing, if you can safely assume so, was probably experimenting and planning out the Hour of Twilight, and never really saw a need to fly so far down South.

    Thus, because of that, he never even noticed it.
    I going to guess that as earth warder Deathwing knew of Pandaria its just that because of the mist he couldnt not find it even if he wanted to find it. If its strong enough to keep Sargeras from noticing another well of eternity then its strong enough to keep deathwing from finding it.

    There is no defined reason why the mist is gone, just that it will be explained as the expansion unfolds. People have taken guesses and others are bandying them about like they are facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    I going to guess that as earth warder Deathwing knew of Pandaria its just that because of the mist he couldnt not find it even if he wanted to find it. If its strong enough to keep Sargeras from noticing another well of eternity then its strong enough to keep deathwing from finding it.

    There is no defined reason why the mist is gone, just that it will be explained as the expansion unfolds. People have taken guesses and others are bandying them about like they are facts.
    For all we know Deathwing coulda been all like "lolpandas. april fools jokes." and ignored them because of it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destil View Post
    For all we know Deathwing coulda been all like "lolpandas. april fools jokes." and ignored them because of it!
    Maybe he felt like if he visited there the other aspects would force him to do all the dailies to remain cutting edge and that some how it was blizzards fault even though he had other options?

    He probably should of done some of the quests in hindsight, he may not of been beaten if he had a couple MoP quest greens on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velshin View Post
    If that's 100% true then why there was like almost no clue about it durning the Cataclysm storyline? I know maybe they were busy with Deathwing and the Twilight hammer but still...there is no way in hell that all of Azeroth society were just focusing on nothing but Deathwing got what I mean?
    Why would you expect there to be? This is not a global society. We still use sailing vessels and only now steam boats to cross the oceans, and we don't scour the oceans exploring. People like Brann do that.

    There is absolutely no reason to think Pandaria would be immediately found when it appeared. A year or two sounds just about right.

    Early in dev interviews, they straight up said the Cataclysm seemed to make the mists go away. Since then Blizzard has adopted a coy tone regarding the matter, so they either added more lore they haven't revealed or they're just being coy.
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    So someone said something about a 7th Sha *paranoia possibly* and related this to an old god. This got me thinking.

    We know from the Lorewalkers that The Mogu ruled Pandaria, we know they used Titan Constructs, and we know Sha were not pressent at the time *as the Mogu had no issues with Sha, which they should have with all the negative emotions Mogu give off, never mind the negative emotions suffered by the other Pandaren Races before they found tranquility*.

    We now see Mogu, thought to be non-existant, show up with massive Sha corruption. I think they are linked, obvsiouly. What is it that brings Mogu Constructs to life, Sha power possibly. Maybe if this Old God theory is true. The Sha are only an extension of the power of an Old God, the Sha being unmanifested ethreal power, and the Mogu "vessles" their mediums in the waking world.

    How else would Mogu hold such ancient powers, and the knowledge to re-purpose Titan Machines, else they know because an entity as old as, if not older, then a Titan has knowledge of how it is used.

    Further more. in regards to Deathwing, formerly the earth warder, the aspect in charge of all the lands of Azeroth, who had to know of Pandaria as it was his job to know. His handelers were the Old Gods, if the Sha are the work of an old god, why send deathwing to do something when the old god had it underwraps in the first place. This I feel would make my next theory rational that Pandaria *the land* knows its in trouble and lifted the mists when it felt outsider presence in the area * warring horde/alliance* hope these new races would help save Pandaria.

    Again, on topic though, again I beleive the Mists lifting is more because of Shaohoa and the fact Pandaria, the land itself is alive, that being said. Pandaria knows it needs outside help because the Pandaren Races simply dont have a chance of surviving alone. With outside aid it has a better chance of surviving.

    Just my foil hat idea.

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    if i remember correctly during the jade forest questing the mist is explained pretty well, it was a safeguard to prevent the negative emotions for outsider races to fuel up the various sha, the pandaren emperor thought that only the pandarens where able to control their emotion well so to prevent the Sha to gain power he sealed away pandaria with the mist and buried the weakened sha underground.
    The cataclysm shattered the mist, the horde and alliance arrived on pandaria and their negative emotions awakened the various Sha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bufferunderrun View Post
    if i remember correctly during the jade forest questing the mist is explained pretty well, it was a safeguard to prevent the negative emotions for outsider races to fuel up the various sha, the pandaren emperor thought that only the pandarens where able to control their emotion well so to prevent the Sha to gain power he sealed away pandaria with the mist and buried the weakened sha underground.
    The cataclysm shattered the mist, the horde and alliance arrived on pandaria and their negative emotions awakened the various Sha.
    In the cinamatic the mist doesnt disipate till horde and alliance approach, meanining it wasnt shattered by the shattering.

    More over, the the mists safe guarded Pandaria from the collapse of the Well of Eternity... a much more destructive event imo, and did so just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velshin View Post
    Sorry to say this but you really don't need to insult me just because I have different opinion about the subject. Yes I do understand your point but what I think is there was no hints at all about it durning Cataclysm not even the end of it for example at the end of TBC you have hints that there is still Northrend up there and the Lich king there or at the end of Vanilla you have hints around the entire Azeroth about a new world beyond the Dark Portal which is the world of Draenor that's what I mean...you really don't need to be harsh...
    Because Warcraft 3 ended with the Arthas becoming the Lich King in Northrend, so everyone already knew that. It probably wasn't added to the map during vanilla and TBC to avoid confusion and they weren't working on that part of the game yet. I mean, Grim Batol technically existed in the maps since vanilla and people speculated about it all the time because it was an area of the map you couldn't zoom in to. Imagine that with a whole continent.
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    You're up in arms about something you never had and never knew you were going to have until more recent times, now you're pissed off because it turns out you might not get it, even though nobody ever actually said you were getting it anyway?
    Turns out painting a bunch of circles on the floor is all it takes to totally trivialize an encounter designed by Blizzard's dev team. I guess it must be pretty scary when your best work is broken down and utterly defeated by trigonometry.

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    I think the mists are still there. Go fly out of Pandaria, into the ocean. Soon, you will be enveloped by mists.
    Also, in the Horde beginning quests, there was a lot of mists when they were on the zepplin.
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    Actually, it is not clear yet why the Mists disapeared.

    It may be the Shattering, of course... But considering Yu'lon asks herself on why the Mists disapeared, there may be a bigger reason other than the Shattering for that...

    After all, why did the Mogu returned just now? And why did the Sha also return just now? Sure, our presence influenced that... But I don't think the Sha of Fear escping Niuzao and taking over the Mantid was caused by us... The Dread Wastes looks too corrupted for it to have happened in a period of less than 2 months...

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