This thread sucks, its full of realistic people arguing against war-hawks willing to send there own countrymen to die in another war which will not be won, just like every other American war since Korea.
America is on the brink of collapse and you people want to go fight another war? Sure its sad people are dying, but its not just Assad and the military doing the killing. There are Al Quaida elements active in Syria, even Hillary Clinton admits that. What next? We topple a government and replace it with an ultra Islamic government who will just oppress the people more?
Let the people sort it out. Eventually they will win.
Remember, every so often the tree of liberty needs to be watered with the blood of patriots.
B. No one here is advocating a 10 year war with thousands of American lives lost. We are advocating the removal of a brutal dictator by force if he uses chemical weapons on the civilian population. That requires airstrikes at most.
C. The tree of liberty does not need to be watered with the blood of patriots. It just needs carbon dioxide, sunlight, water, and soil. No blood required.
It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.
I really, really hope you're trolling. Because if you're not, I weep at the level of ignorance required.
Uganda: 2011-present, violence ongoing
Pakistan: 2004-present, violence ongoing
Yemen: 2002-present, civil war
Kosovo: 1999-present, intermittent violence
Afghanistan: 1998-present, civil war
Somalia: 1992-present, civil war
Columbia: 1989-present, ongoing violence
Iraq: 1987-present, violence ongoing
Grenada:1983, peaceful democracy
Libya: 1981-present, ongoing violence
Vietnam: 1961-1975, collapse of South Vietnam, communist victory
Korea: 1950-present, ceasefire, ongoing threats, nuclear weapons
Japan: 1941-1952, democracy, peace
Germany: 1941-1949, democracy, peace
Russia: 1918-1922, revolution, communist victory
Hati: 1914-2010, failed state, foreign occupation
Dominican Republic: 1798-1966, dictatorship, tyranny
Cuba: 1822-1960, ongoing tension and hostility
Honduras - 1902-1988, peace, U.S.-supported coup in 2009
Panama: 1901-1990, peace, endemic corruption
Phillippines: 1898-present, intermittent violence
Hawaii: 1874-1893, government overthrown, country annexed
Libya (Barbary States): 1801-1823, conquest by the Ottoman Empire
China: 1866-1955, peace, trade relations, military tension over Taiwan
Nicaragua: 1857-1927, puppet government (1927-1979), revolution, ongoing hostility
Mexico: 1844-1920, peace, territory annexed
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People like this are the exact reason why I want the US to keep out of Europe's problems and let them figure out how to solve their own damn problems. Pathetic individuals. There is so much wrongful information in the post it's not worth time trying to help this poor fool out. Just another American hater spreading vitriol and asinine propaganda. According to this moron, all the worlds problems are caused by America.
Infracted: Please post respectfully and avoid personal attacks
Last edited by Pendulous; 2012-12-08 at 02:40 AM.
tbh im seeing a lot of the same language and word structure with some of these posters. the repeated and often incorrect use of the word asinine for example. makes me wonder if theyre the same "enlightened" individual.
I'm not one to be talking politics but I wish the US would stop getting involved with everything. Seriously look how bad were doing right now. Why are we focusing on war all the time and not our own country? Let someone else play hero for once, it's not like we did a whole lot in the war besides kill some key targets of the Taliban and have thousands of our own troops die for it. And if no one goes to Syria's rescue then obviously it's not worth it to try and save them as bad as that sounds. No one would come help us if we were in that situation except for maybe UK. We're trillions of dollars in debt yet we keep going to other people's wars and keep spending money that could be spent towards better things to help our own country. At this rate we'll hit the quadrillions.
“Ever wonder why ice cubes taste so boring? It’s cuz you make ‘em outta stupid water, you bimbo! Put some fruit juice in there and freeze it into ice cubes, and put THAT in your milk.”
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For your health.
The american government is the reason this is all happening thanks to the CIA.
The point, and I am not sure why I have to explain this, is that the ME is more of a threat to you than it would be to us which is why I believe it should be handled by the UN or neighboring countries as opposed to the US.
"British Foreign Secretary William Hague says the UK and the US have seen evidence that Syria is preparing to use chemical weapons."
Looks like shit is about to get a whole lot worse for Syria, whether it's true or not.
Without going into any detail, we're not especially keen to butt our noses into this one, simply for cost / benefit. That said you bet your ass the Alawite regime is preparing chemical weapons - at the rate that the insurgency groups are going, if the Alawites don't use gas soon, they're going to run out of delivery systems period.
Both US and EU is very hesitant to help the rebels directly and for a good reason.
We all know what happened after the US support of the talibans vs CCCP.
As shitty this situation is it is far from obvious what can happen in the power vacuum after Assad is gone.
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Russia isn't afraid of US dude. That's why they are sending their bombers like 60km out of your shores. Infact they give 0 fucks. They know you wont dare to touch them.