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    Estonia is the Freest Country in the World

    ...based on social freedom, economic freedom, social mobility, individual freedom, and equality.

    Just thought it was interesting

    1. Estonia
    2. Ireland
    3. Canada
    4. Switzerland
    5. Iceland
    6. Bahamas
    7. United Kingdom
    8. United States
    9. Cyprus
    10. New Zealand

    source: http://www.stateofworldliberty.org/report/rankings.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices

    I'm moving to Canada soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raidenx View Post
    ...based on social freedom, economic freedom, social mobility, individual freedom, and equality.

    Just thought it was interesting

    1. Estonia
    2. Ireland
    3. Canada
    4. Switzerland
    5. Iceland
    6. Bahamas
    7. United Kingdom
    8. United States
    9. Cyprus
    10. New Zealand

    source: http://www.stateofworldliberty.org/report/rankings.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices

    I'm moving to Canada soon

    Free doesn't always mean good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kabookiejoez View Post
    Free doesn't always mean good.
    Care to elaborate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kabookiejoez View Post
    Free doesn't always mean good.
    No but it's better than not being free almost every time. Freedom has a price, but it allows you to own yourself.

    People have flourished the most when they have been the most free all throughout history.


    Found a graph

    http://www.themoneyillusion.com/?p=5575

    Last edited by Raidenx; 2012-12-08 at 09:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daraiki View Post
    Care to elaborate?
    Do you want to move to Estonia?
    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    Everyone is pro-US. They just don't know it yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyre View Post
    Internet lives in the sky, don't need no cables for that.
    A nice list of logical fallacies. In picture form!

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    Speaking of estonia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU6VBTGjYkk

    Funny that my coutry is number 7, its near enough a police state with all the CCTV around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kabookiejoez View Post
    Free doesn't always mean good.
    and less free, big government and more regulations, social programs doesn't always mean bad?

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    How on earth is Ireland second?

    I mean, it's not exactly North Korea, but I never pictured it as a bastion of freedom.

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    Iceland should be number 1. You can do whatever the fuck you want here. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khraine View Post
    Speaking of estonia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU6VBTGjYkk

    Funny that my coutry is number 7, its near enough a police state with all the CCTV around.
    Just shows you how messed up the world is though. USA is still high despite the last 10 years' bad legislation like the Patriot Act, bank bailouts by the fed, and NDAA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Do you want to move to Estonia?
    Estonia is pretty advanced. They have better internet than America lol
    Last edited by Raidenx; 2012-12-08 at 09:08 PM.

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    7. United Kingdom
    No offense to Brits out there, but I cannot possibly imagine the UK being on 7th spot on this list, considering you jail people for saying offensive stuff. You can argue whether jailing for being offensive is right or wrong, but you can't possibly say it's very freedom-like.

    And again, I'm having a hard time seeing the US as 8th place as well. I mean, homosexual marriage and abortion is illegal in some places in the US, how can that possibly not drag the US down by a margin?
    Quote Originally Posted by Daraiki View Post
    Care to elaborate?
    I think he means that it's bad to be too free, because then people can say whatever they like and offend anyone without repurcussion, which some people see as a bad thing, or if we're going way extreme, having men marry younger children, that's another kind of freedom that isn't good at all.
    Last edited by Tomatketchup; 2012-12-08 at 09:15 PM.

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    I live in Estonia and thank you for a good laugh. With statistics you can prove anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Istaril View Post
    How on earth is Ireland second?

    I mean, it's not exactly North Korea, but I never pictured it as a bastion of freedom.
    Economic Freedom? Pretty sure that sets them apart, for good and bad.
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    hate to tell you, but the UK is anything but free - the amount of regulation in this country is such that any sense of true freedom is a long time forgotten about, the only freedom you have here is to bitch about it in your own home, even then with regulation of social networking they're slowly working on that too!
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    Bullshit, absolute bullshit. Not because of Estonia or anything but because US even made it to that list.

    Also Cyprus? What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daraiki View Post
    Care to elaborate?
    Ireland.

    Awful economy, a country still split among itself as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raidenx View Post

    Estonia is pretty advanced. They have better internet than America lol
    That's not hard to do. the US and the UK have probably the most atrocious internet service on the planet, save for china.
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    North Korea is basically "death for thinking"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzi View Post
    Bullshit, absolute bullshit. Not because of Estonia or anything but because US even made it to that list.

    Also Cyprus? What?
    The butthurt is strong with this one.
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    And yes, before anyone asks, I'm pretty surprised that at least not one Nordic country made it into the list.

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