Or you can actually try make a valid point yourself. Also this condescension is retarded, if you had relevant, valid material to support an argument I'll look at them. I'm under however no obligation to watch some random guy's youtube video of his personal opinions. Especially not when you offered them up as though it's what I asked for, when in fact it is clearly completely different.I do understand how this guy would turn your stomach....but come on, five minutes of watching a video in the interest of a conversation....
How is it a knee jerk reaction? I asked if you (plural) had court cases. You (plural) keep linking me irrelevant shit - while pretending it's what I asked for. It's not knee jerking to point out hey, it's not actually a court case, it's a youtube video.I won't press the issue, but I do wish you'd at least give it a chance without your exact, and limiting knee jerk reaction....
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Last edited by semaphore; 2012-12-08 at 06:56 PM.
I just googled alimony because I always thought it was child support...but it seems to be some ridiculous "here's money for being married to me" thing. I don't understand how this still exists. We don't have alimony in Australia. If I were to get married and have a child then get divorced I'd have to pay child support. No child then no reason to pay, and if you have a child then isn't child support enough? This kind of boggles my mind.
This is stupid. Typically the divorce settlement over here is 50/50 of all moneyz and property etc etc and thats done and dusted.
Then child maintenence is settled in a different agreement.
Always thought this whole alimony business was fucked up when I saw it on 2 and a half men.
Here in my country I have heard people getting married just so they can apply for a first house loan to the bank, since they are inclined to give it to "new families".
Last edited by naturestorm; 2012-12-08 at 07:07 PM.
Can someone explain to me, why its legal to ask someone who makes roughly $90,000 a year, to pay $104,000 plus $3,300 child support. And what the hell is alimony.
My mother can't work so she gets like 1100/month from the government (not sure what's it called in english) and she managed to raise my sister and me (though, my father helped my mother out as well) just well.
Alimony is just really freaking stupid and it should be elimenated. I mean, c'mon! Both my parents combined don't even make 100k per year.
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There is a ton more going on in this case than we know. You don't incure 100k in legal fees over a divorce, that is 100% wrong unless something else is going on in the situation. You can't take them on contingency fees. The average lawyer charges between 300 and 500 and hour depending on their reputation. Do the math, divorce is actually rather simple and rarely requires the I don't know....200+ hours that 100k in legal fees would require at the absolute worst rate.
Your alimony is based on your income there is a lot more going on than simple this guy is getting screwed. More than likely to actually serve time he tried to hide all his money and go caught and lost his job and generally refused to pay. If you can't pay you go to the court show them the change in your financial situation and the court redesigns the alimony. If he had 100k in legal fees and 200 hours of legal work, they would have done this because it takes little to no time to go and do. My guess is with a disabled wife he had a mistress among other things that allowed the judge to really stick it to him. Who inflicts the divorce can have issue, and he probably has other assets that allowed his income to be higher than 90k, if you make money you can hide money, especially trust money etc. There is a lot more going on here and without seeing any COURT, not my friend says, documentation this is a spin piece trying to get reform in the alimony area. Which isn't bad, but don't go thinking this is common way things work and that this "poor" guy is getting shafted. You don't incur what he did because he kindly left his wife, handicapped wife, and children.
Last edited by Zoldor; 2012-12-08 at 07:15 PM.
Semaphore, how much alimony are you collecting exactly? :P
I love when this debate pops up - all women who get married suddenly turn into women that could've done so much with their lives and careers but gave it all up to get married...
It's not like I was making an obscure or unbelievable claim. This has been well known for a long time.
On second thought...
Semaphore, I mean this in as nice a way possible, but your method of arguing is extremely abrasive. People don't care what statistics or studies say, they care about their own experiences. Experiences are what shape a person's perspective. If I, or someone I know, or any of these other posters and people they know have had this kind of crap happen, then it's happened. The fact that they don't have an encyclopedia article detailing it doesn't make it any less real, or any less valid. Given the sheer number of men complaining about settlements regarding alimony and child support, I'd say that's enough evidence that there's a serious problem in the system, and that it very often does favor the woman by default. And to be fair, I know you've stated that you agree it's not a perfect system and needs worked on, but I'm trying to offer constructive criticism here. The reason you never get the sourced evidence you ask for is because that's not what people go by. They go by experience.