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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Coar View Post
    Video card is not at all the biggest factor in WoW, it's a CPU intensive game.

    ---------- Post added 2012-12-08 at 08:46 AM ----------

    This is what I came up with, what should I change? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rslL
    That build will do what you are looking for, yes. Don't let anyone talk you into an intel proc for a budget build, the gains are not equal to the cost increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oplawlz View Post
    That build will do what you are looking for, yes. Don't let anyone talk you into an intel proc for a budget build, the gains are not equal to the cost increase.
    Except when it comes to CPU's.

    Edit: Video cards I agree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oplawlz View Post
    That build will do what you are looking for, yes. Don't let anyone talk you into an intel proc for a budget build, the gains are not equal to the cost increase.
    Are you even serious, buck for buck Intel has the upperhand for years now. I can't even fathom the denial one must be in to even consider buying a AMD processor atm.
    How about a little comparisson;

    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/62?i=289.102

    And this is a i3-2100 of the 2nd gen @ 3.1 ghz. The i3-3220 is 14% faster than this.
    So in World of Warcraft, that's an extra 25% (22*1.14) performance for $10 extra. Seems quite obvious what's the smart thing to do here.

    Seriously, why are people who buy AMD so inclined to get everyone else to buy them. Eventhough every benchmarks points out they are subpar to Intel (flat performance, and price/performance wise). I don't understand it at all, and it's been apparent in more than this tech-forum. Especially if they start saying things like: "Don't let anyone else tell you otherwise" What kind of BS is that. /rant
    Last edited by Majesticii; 2012-12-08 at 06:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesticii View Post
    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/536?vs=549
    This is a little bit better for comparison
    Yeah, it is. Still the 7850 blows the 7770 out of the water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klutzington View Post
    Yeah, it is. Still the 7850 blows the 7770 out of the water.
    It wasn't a contradiction. I was just delivering some more real-life performance charts to be inb4 people arguing it.

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    damn dude im running on this ancient pc with a double Pentium 4 processors and i don't even get that low fps
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    I'm just going to ask what parts can you reuse from your old rig?
    If you can reuse some parts you can put more money in to core hardware.
    Such as your CPU and GFX card you can save a fair bit re-using stuff.
    Like your old chase for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZz0r View Post
    I'm just going to ask what parts can you reuse from your old rig?
    If you can reuse some parts you can put more money in to core hardware.
    Such as your CPU and GFX card you can save a fair bit re-using stuff.
    Like your old chase for example.
    If your old computer was one that you built yourself, you can use the case if it is compatible with your new motherboard (the screw holes and backplate line up). You can re-use optical drives. Hard drives as well if they are not ancient. You can use sata-cords as well as screws... I guess.

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    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
    Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $489.93
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-09 04:48 EST-0500)

    Switched out the PSU and Mobo to accomodate the 7850 without going over the budget.

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    Yet, a PSU is something you DONT want to cut back on.

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    WoW is actually very GPU intensive too...I got 99% usage with an HD 6870 in Cata and get 99% in MoP with an overclocked gtx 670, at least last time I checked...and that wasn't even in raids. I use an i5 2500k @ 4.5ghz too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesticii View Post
    Yet, a PSU is something you DONT want to cut back on.
    Yet, said CX 430 v2 has been vetted http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/fa...power-supplies , http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...Review/1284/10 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucci View Post
    WoW is actually very GPU intensive too...I got 99% usage with an HD 6870 in Cata and get 99% in MoP with an overclocked gtx 670, at least last time I checked...and that wasn't even in raids. I use an i5 2500k @ 4.5ghz too.
    ofcourse you get 99% gpu load in combination with a 2500K @ 4.5ghz. It's way underpowered for that CPU. That doesn't say you need a 6870 to get 60fps ingame.

    Quote Originally Posted by yurano View Post
    Nice, i didn't look at reviews so i guess it's ok. Though it's still something you don't want to cheapskate on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yurano View Post
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
    Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $489.93
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-09 04:48 EST-0500)

    Switched out the PSU and Mobo to accomodate the 7850 without going over the budget.
    This is the best suggestion so far. Very well balanced not only for wow, but other games as well.
    Just a few things to keep in mind:
    - even if the old pc from the OP is a piece of junk, the hard drive and the optical drive (if SATA and not IDE) might be worth salvaging to save a some money
    - a Phenom 965 with a matching board around $70 (e.g. Asrock 970 pro3) would be a slightly cheaper alternative, but especially for WoW also a little bit slower (but only a little bit, price/performance is about the same)
    - Windows license should be usable from the old pc. Make sure that you have a "vanilla" windows disc (not a recovery disc with already integrated drivers)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biernot View Post
    - a Phenom 965 with a matching board around $70 (e.g. Asrock 970 pro3) would be a slightly cheaper alternative, but especially for WoW also a little bit slower (but only a little bit, price/performance is about the same)
    I guess you didn't read all the posts. Cause i just displayed the difference between the 965 and the 3220 in WoW, it's about 25%. That isn't just a "little bit". And with just a 10 dollar price difference, i'd say the price/performance shifts majorly in Intel's favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesticii View Post
    I guess you didn't read all the posts. Cause i just displayed the difference between the 965 and the 3220 in WoW, it's about 25%. That isn't just a "little bit". And with just a 10 dollar price difference, i'd say the price/performance shifts majorly in Intel's favor.
    Ah sorry, my fault:
    - I had the comparison between Phenom 965 and i3-2120 in my mind. Didn't realize we are talking about the i3-3220.
    - The last price i remember for the 965 was $85 on newegg. I guess that was a special offer and not the regular price.

    So, i stand corrected: i3-3220 it is!

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    not sure about prices in your country but here a friend bought 1 ultrabook i7, 8gb ram, nVidia GeForce GT 635M 2GB for about 550 euro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The unknown secret View Post
    not sure about prices in your country but here a friend bought 1 ultrabook i7, 8gb ram, nVidia GeForce GT 635M 2GB for about 550 euro.
    I had a salad roll for $5 for lunch

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    WoW's most important requirements are RAM & a GPU??? No.
    Completely CPU intensive. Next best performance enhancing component I'd say would be an SSD
    Could have cheap assed ram & a $50 GPU or one of AMD's integrated CPU/GPU cores and run the game just pretty for 10 man raiding.

    The build Yurano suggested is your best bet and will keep you current with WoW for a good while longer.
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