View Poll Results: Which Era Was The Best?

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  • Classic World of Warcraft

    102 7.43%
  • The Burning Crusade

    441 32.14%
  • Wrath of the Lich King

    518 37.76%
  • Cataclysm

    32 2.33%
  • Mists of Pandaria

    279 20.34%
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  1. #341
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicardoZ View Post
    This is also very true with Cataclysm. While people were whining and crying over Troll dungeons, heroics being too hard, and outdated raids getting nerfed, the rest of us were levelling alts 1-60 and amazed at the depth and dynamics of the new world and the marked increase in quality of storytelling in every zone.
    Very well written and i completely agree .

  2. #342
    1. Wotlk
    2. TBC
    3. Cata
    4. MoP

    Played maybe 3 hours total in vanilla so can't really say much about that one. Reason why MoP is last is because I pretty much only pvp and it has been pretty broken until now, didn't like much of MoP so far. (spoiler: I fucking loathe dailies and think it's incredibly poor game design, and to call that content outside of the first time you do them is laughable, so there's little content for me to do).

  3. #343
    Quote Originally Posted by Justforthis123 View Post
    Thats rose tinted glasses at its max power.

    Sorry but nothing can beat Wotlk and MoP is getting better every day .
    Sorry, but that's just incorrect. I began in Vanilla and was in a guild farming BWL, we never did Temple or Naxx, but those raids were for the 1%. I was ok with the 1% then, but these days the game is so water-ed down that the 1% is very hard to distinguish. I don't think anybody here will disagree with the idea that the game itself has matured and added cool new features, but from someone who actually stepped foot in the "World" of Warcraft and had to take Flight Paths cross continent, farm the SHIT out of dungeons getting BLUES before I would get looked at for raids to only have to earn the right to bid on a purple, completed dozens-long quest chains that actually were epic(You are Rakh'likh, Demon, for instance), etc. etc. I could go on, but as others have played Devil's Advocate to, everyone is going to have their own personal nostalgia and if I were to base my vote solely on that it would be Vanilla.

    TBC paced Raids perfectly, and 10 and 25 man Raids were distinct and had their own purpose, dailies were not a forced grind (at least until Sunwell), PvP/Arena was at its best and most balanced (Sure, until WoTLK talents came out and the underappreciated and difficult to excel at Retadin was buffed to God-dom), heroics that were about as difficult as raids until they were out-geared, etc.

    You obviously feel different, and that's ok, but there are many reasons I will never see Wrath or anything since as the "best" expansion. The sense of community, exploration, living world, all of that is gone. Probably for some of the reasons you think Wrath is the best.

  4. #344
    best era of wow, best expansion of wow = the very one you started in

  5. #345
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    1) TBC
    2) WOTLK
    3) Vanilla/MoP
    4) Cata

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  6. #346
    Wrath - great story, great lore, great visuals in armor, monsters, and scenery. Epic centerpiece of questing (Wrathgate/Undercity), best raid in the game, plenty of accessibility for players while still maintaining HCore exclusive content (Firefighter, ICC 25H). Fun dungeons, reps weren't grindy, fun boss mechanics.

    Overall, it was the best expansion and the subscriptions proved it.

  7. #347
    I am genuinely surprised that BC is so close to Wrath. Wrath was ridiculously well done. Every single class is less fun to play since Wrath.

  8. #348
    Quote Originally Posted by Totle View Post
    Wrath - great story, great lore, great visuals in armor, monsters, and scenery. Epic centerpiece of questing (Wrathgate/Undercity), best raid in the game, plenty of accessibility for players while still maintaining HCore exclusive content (Firefighter, ICC 25H). Fun dungeons, reps weren't grindy, fun boss mechanics.

    Overall, it was the best expansion and the subscriptions proved it.
    Wrath also had arguably the worst Raid in WoW, ToC. Also, being the "best" is ultimately subjective and saying it had the most subscriptions does not infer this. In fact, one could make an argument that Wrath had the most subscriptions based on TBC's quality, catching people on with the "new" expansion. The hardcore content was, by definition, NOT exclusive, the dungeons were good, but were no better than TBC's. The reputations on the other hand were far more grindy, Argent Tournament anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kantoro View Post
    I am genuinely surprised that BC is so close to Wrath. Wrath was ridiculously well done. Every single class is less fun to play since Wrath.
    I would argue that classes were less fun to play during Wrath (other than DK's whom were perfect in theory on release, and subsequently neutered from distinguishing the three specs). Before Wrath all classes/specs could serve specific roles slightly better than others, and beginning with Wrath all similar specs of different classes were streamlined.
    Last edited by Absintheminded; 2012-12-20 at 07:25 PM.

  9. #349
    Huh, would you look at that.

    I guess the old forum myth about *everyone* thinking that the last expansion was the best, and the current one is the worst, is nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekkommo View Post
    I still find it amusing so many say wrath, when it was the worst expansion of all.
    Wrath is the dividing point between a lot of groups. The older player base started to leave during Wrath, so a lot of the current player base would only have hit their stride in Wrath, thus making it their favorite - especially if they didn't raid much prior to Wrath. Wrath also had the LK storyline which is pivotal to the franchise.

    On the negative side, Wrath introduced toggle hardmodes and LFD (which led to LFR) and essentially began the decay of server communities.

    That's why my favorite period in WoW was Vanilla through to Ulduar, with the game becoming steadily worse in my opinion from Ulduar until I quit in DS.

    WoW passed a certain balancing point in Wrath where convenience bypassed journey in terms of importance in the game. The direction determined by that shift has caused there to be a distinct split in the playerbase between the old and new direction. I can't say which is better, but I know which I preferred. The vote seems to reflect that split as well.

  11. #351
    Quote Originally Posted by Kantoro View Post
    I am genuinely surprised that BC is so close to Wrath. Wrath was ridiculously well done. Every single class is less fun to play since Wrath.
    You don't play a hunter, do you?

    My brief take on things:

    Vanilla: Was what it was. Lots of promise, lots of rough edges.
    BC: Strove to be something great, and there's definitely the most imagination and attention to detail here as far as environments go.
    Wrath: Pinnacle of xpac-spanning storytelling in this game so far. Cohesive and very well done.
    Cata: Again strove for greatness, but missed the mark... did a few things right, and a lot of things wrong.
    MoP: Far better than Cata, but might be trying a bit too much to appeal to *everyone*

    While none of these expansions were blemish-free, I'd call Wrath the winner, with BC a close second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Totle View Post
    Wrath - great story, great lore, great visuals in armor, monsters, and scenery. Epic centerpiece of questing (Wrathgate/Undercity), best raid in the game, plenty of accessibility for players while still maintaining HCore exclusive content (Firefighter, ICC 25H). Fun dungeons, reps weren't grindy, fun boss mechanics.

    Overall, it was the best expansion and the subscriptions proved it.
    You could also argue that TBC was the best because it had the greatest subscription growth and thus was attracting players faster than they were departing by a much larger margin than any other time in WoW. Wrath may have peaked in terms of total subs, but it also had much lower growth than Vanilla or TBC and thus you could say that it was inferior to those products as the rate of new sub acquisition in comparison to sub departure had a much worse ratio.

    Using subsciptions to prove quality is flawed - subscriptions only show commercial and financial success. Backstreet Boys have sold roughly 40 million copies of Millenium world wide so far to place 10th on the all time album sales list. The Beatles don't have an album in the top 10. Does this mean the Backstreet Boys are better artists than the Beatles? Is Millenium a better album than Sgt Pepper? To add even more perspective - The Bodyguard and Saturday Night Fever soundtracks are also in the top 10. Raw sales numbers does not a work of art make. You can use subscription numbers the same way you can use album sales - they prove something was popular, they don't necessarily prove it was good (another case in point Diablo 3 - average game, nothing special, yet huge sales numbers - mostly based on the reputation of the previous Diablo games).

  13. #353
    Quote Originally Posted by melodramocracy View Post
    You don't play a hunter, do you?
    Hunter is my main, but I play everything. Priority based dps is god awful and the worst thing I can think of of the top of my head that has been introduced to WoW. I can give you reasons but its a 5 paragraph statement and I don't care that much. Oh making encounters harder by making healing suck is a close second.

    Staring at your buttons and waiting for procs <<<<<< enjoying the scenery, watching the ground for bad stuff and paying attention to the fight.

  14. #354
    TBC by far for me: raging hard-on when I discovered how badass it was to be a raiding shadowpriest.

    Group 5 caster DPS 4tw - top 5 U.S. through all of T5, T6, and Sunwell according to WWS.

    Oh, and did I mention M'uru? Still my favorite boss fight.

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  15. #355
    Vanilla - hit level 60 about a week before BC came out. Leveling was the worst of all releases.

    BC - spend the whole time ganking.

    Wrath brought a little darkness to the game. The Death Knight as a class was/is bad ass. Shadowmourne and Val'Anyr were awesome legendaries. Ulduar and ICC were a blast.

    Cata - spent the whole time PVP'ing. Loved the new RBG system - thank you blizz.

    MOP - Where to begin. Pandas are stupid. Reputation grinds are stupid. PVP vendor placement is stupid. Sha is laggy (on Tichondrius). PVP feels like more of the same, but that seems to be true in most releases. Oddly back to PVE with this release but I like the World PVP element.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikepic View Post
    I read the title and immediately expected to see pages full of people reply with BC. I agree BC was really good (I enjoyed every expansion including Vanilla) but I enjoyed my time the most in Wrath. Probably b/c I was more involved in raiding and I had a larger sample of friends who played regularly.
    A good point that gets overlooked so many times about which expansion they enjoyed the most, exactly what you were doing and who with.


    Anyway...I don't think it was TBC or Wotlk or w/e... I know it was Vanilla, and because I am cooler and my opinion is more important I think we can all agree that Vanilla was the best, now we can lock this thread, because I have spoken.
    Last edited by Morbownz; 2012-12-21 at 10:01 PM. Reason: Because I am cool

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    For me it is MOP, without question
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  18. #358
    TBC cuz it brings back memories than all other expansionsd
    and it was the expansion when i started playing wow.
    Cata and MOP are just meh, Wotlk was ok
    Last edited by Frank Garrett; 2012-12-21 at 11:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thatwsntmilk View Post
    Awesome how TBC is that high, even though many people in here didn't play it and therefore vote for Wotlk. TBC:1 - Other epansions: 0
    Erm well don't you think that people played WotLK and not TBC because umm well it was more awesome otherwise they wouldn't hear about it therefore they wouldn't be interested in playing the game in the first place? Hm?
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    BIG surprise... Cataclysm is loathed. Yes, although 1-60 was amazing, I could never forget the crappy math of Heroics, the free pass to game the system, forcing strangers to carry your undergeared character, and the raids that punished the least error in an unavoidable domino effect.

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