Classic World of Warcraft
The Burning Crusade
Wrath of the Lich King
Mists of Pandaria
Played maybe 3 hours total in vanilla so can't really say much about that one. Reason why MoP is last is because I pretty much only pvp and it has been pretty broken until now, didn't like much of MoP so far. (spoiler: I fucking loathe dailies and think it's incredibly poor game design, and to call that content outside of the first time you do them is laughable, so there's little content for me to do).
TBC paced Raids perfectly, and 10 and 25 man Raids were distinct and had their own purpose, dailies were not a forced grind (at least until Sunwell), PvP/Arena was at its best and most balanced (Sure, until WoTLK talents came out and the underappreciated and difficult to excel at Retadin was buffed to God-dom), heroics that were about as difficult as raids until they were out-geared, etc.
You obviously feel different, and that's ok, but there are many reasons I will never see Wrath or anything since as the "best" expansion. The sense of community, exploration, living world, all of that is gone. Probably for some of the reasons you think Wrath is the best.
best era of wow, best expansion of wow = the very one you started in
May #1 be remembered and #4 be forgotten.
“In keeping silent about evil, in burying it so deep within us that no sign of it appears on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousand fold in the future. When we neither punish nor reproach evildoers, we are not simply protecting their trivial old age, we are thereby ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations.” - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956
Wrath - great story, great lore, great visuals in armor, monsters, and scenery. Epic centerpiece of questing (Wrathgate/Undercity), best raid in the game, plenty of accessibility for players while still maintaining HCore exclusive content (Firefighter, ICC 25H). Fun dungeons, reps weren't grindy, fun boss mechanics.
Overall, it was the best expansion and the subscriptions proved it.
I am genuinely surprised that BC is so close to Wrath. Wrath was ridiculously well done. Every single class is less fun to play since Wrath.
Last edited by Absintheminded; 2012-12-20 at 07:25 PM.
Huh, would you look at that.
I guess the old forum myth about *everyone* thinking that the last expansion was the best, and the current one is the worst, is nonsense.
Benevolence is a luxury for the strong - Wrathion
On the negative side, Wrath introduced toggle hardmodes and LFD (which led to LFR) and essentially began the decay of server communities.
That's why my favorite period in WoW was Vanilla through to Ulduar, with the game becoming steadily worse in my opinion from Ulduar until I quit in DS.
WoW passed a certain balancing point in Wrath where convenience bypassed journey in terms of importance in the game. The direction determined by that shift has caused there to be a distinct split in the playerbase between the old and new direction. I can't say which is better, but I know which I preferred. The vote seems to reflect that split as well.
My brief take on things:
Vanilla: Was what it was. Lots of promise, lots of rough edges.
BC: Strove to be something great, and there's definitely the most imagination and attention to detail here as far as environments go.
Wrath: Pinnacle of xpac-spanning storytelling in this game so far. Cohesive and very well done.
Cata: Again strove for greatness, but missed the mark... did a few things right, and a lot of things wrong.
MoP: Far better than Cata, but might be trying a bit too much to appeal to *everyone*
While none of these expansions were blemish-free, I'd call Wrath the winner, with BC a close second.
Benevolence is a luxury for the strong - Wrathion
Using subsciptions to prove quality is flawed - subscriptions only show commercial and financial success. Backstreet Boys have sold roughly 40 million copies of Millenium world wide so far to place 10th on the all time album sales list. The Beatles don't have an album in the top 10. Does this mean the Backstreet Boys are better artists than the Beatles? Is Millenium a better album than Sgt Pepper? To add even more perspective - The Bodyguard and Saturday Night Fever soundtracks are also in the top 10. Raw sales numbers does not a work of art make. You can use subscription numbers the same way you can use album sales - they prove something was popular, they don't necessarily prove it was good (another case in point Diablo 3 - average game, nothing special, yet huge sales numbers - mostly based on the reputation of the previous Diablo games).
Staring at your buttons and waiting for procs <<<<<< enjoying the scenery, watching the ground for bad stuff and paying attention to the fight.
TBC by far for me: raging hard-on when I discovered how badass it was to be a raiding shadowpriest.
Group 5 caster DPS 4tw - top 5 U.S. through all of T5, T6, and Sunwell according to WWS.
Oh, and did I mention M'uru? Still my favorite boss fight.
"There are two types of guys in this world. Guys who sniff their fingers after scratching their balls, and dirty fucking liars." -StylesClashv3
"Elo Hell is where the Ego is greater than the Elo." -Bystekhilcar
Vanilla - hit level 60 about a week before BC came out. Leveling was the worst of all releases.
BC - spend the whole time ganking.
Wrath brought a little darkness to the game. The Death Knight as a class was/is bad ass. Shadowmourne and Val'Anyr were awesome legendaries. Ulduar and ICC were a blast.
Cata - spent the whole time PVP'ing. Loved the new RBG system - thank you blizz.
MOP - Where to begin. Pandas are stupid. Reputation grinds are stupid. PVP vendor placement is stupid. Sha is laggy (on Tichondrius). PVP feels like more of the same, but that seems to be true in most releases. Oddly back to PVE with this release but I like the World PVP element.
Anyway...I don't think it was TBC or Wotlk or w/e... I know it was Vanilla, and because I am cooler and my opinion is more important I think we can all agree that Vanilla was the best, now we can lock this thread, because I have spoken.
Last edited by Morbownz; 2012-12-21 at 10:01 PM. Reason: Because I am cool
For me it is MOP, without question
@Ghostcrawler:Some advice: [My pet issue] is why there were sub losses is one of the weaker arguments players use. Players don't have that data.
TBC cuz it brings back memories than all other expansionsd
and it was the expansion when i started playing wow.
Cata and MOP are just meh, Wotlk was ok
Last edited by Frank Garrett; 2012-12-21 at 11:20 PM.
BIG surprise... Cataclysm is loathed. Yes, although 1-60 was amazing, I could never forget the crappy math of Heroics, the free pass to game the system, forcing strangers to carry your undergeared character, and the raids that punished the least error in an unavoidable domino effect.