Bood boil Is now on Reaping. You should never have orphaned frost runes once you've done a set of festering strikes.
Originally Posted by Stormcall
Regardless of rather or not unholy is competitive, it comes with a lot of issues that some people just don't like.
1)You have to monitor a pet, which some people just don't like. If he dies, your DPS drops way down so you have to focus on keeping him alive as well as having to focus on maximizing uptime on a buff for him to meet your full DPS potential. There's no "petless" unholy, and some people just don't like managing pets.
2)It has a long ramp up time to really get going. That can be okay in boss situations, but if you use the same spec to say, run your dailies as well, it's not as efficient as frost OR blood-it doesn't have the burst and aoe frost has to kill lone mobs or small groups, and it doesn't have the near invincibility that lets blood take on 15+ mobs at once without concern.
Frost wins because it has no ramp up and good burst. But it's not without its own issues. 2h frost is mediocre at aoeing and DW frost has an absolutely horrid rotation. Not to mention wasting a killing machine is probably one of the most frustrating things ever.
Last edited by Rothulean1; 2012-12-15 at 10:18 PM.
As far as I know, Frost does better at Raids, Dungeons, and 2s. Unholy being better at 3s, 5s, and RBGs. But with the recent 30% nerf in PvP I'd imagine Unholy NS are going to be better than before now.
So i just got the Heroic Elegon sword tonight, replacing the Normal Sha of Fear axe and man am i disappointed with my simcraft numbers.
Seems its a giant 2k increase for Frost but only a 400 damage increase for Unholy.
They really need to add more weapon scaling to the spec! >.<
1st post here, woo! been following these forums for a while but never actually signed up...
aaaanyway - was the same as you, a bit meh about how little weapons scale with unholy but it makes sense seeing how it scales more with str and your diseases/pet make up a higher proportion of the damage.
Yeah i used to love getting new weapons back in wrath, suddenly all numbers would be massively increased, specially as blood dps.
Unholy just seems to have lost tons of weapon scaling in the cata revamp, i mean smaller single rune scourge strikes, no more necrosis or blood caked strikes buffing auto attacks, no more blood strikes buffed by diseases.
Wish they'd just make death coil scale with weapon damage and we'd be sorted.
Common sense, a large amount of experience raiding as every dps spec this class has ever had, and the fact that dps drops when I remove references to killing machine from the priority list in simcraft.
Seriously, ask any high ranked dk how much they like using km procs on frost strike as 2h.
If you can show me a way to increase dps by ignoring killing machine I'd be very interested to see how.
Until then I'll continue to advocate using it in the way I consider correct.