Patch 5.1 BMAH Additions, Madness of Deathwing Solo, Blue Tweets, Weekly Roundup

[rogueMatthias]

So, ignoring all the special snowflake discussion,

Is is my imagination, or are the blue tweets getting more and more redundant? I was trying to make out anything in all those tweets that was in any way new and not just another "we do listen, but it's us that makes the game" post rephrased slightly.

[Adramalech]

this isn't really valid when you're talking about an MMO game. What's the point in doing anything in a MMO when you can just buy gold and purchase the rewards?

I'd agree with you, if not for the fact that buying gold isn't really something endorsed by Blizzard, or a lot of us players for that matter. Buying gold is, for all intents and purposes, as bad as exploiting. Obtaining enough gold for these vanity items in a legit way will take enough effort to warrant the mount's availability as a gold sink. And even ignoring for a moment their cost, it's not like these mounts will be up on the BMAH 24/7, all the time, always available. You won't suddenly have a mob of players riding on plagued proto-drakes because of this. Just like you don't have mobs of players riding other rare drop mounts that are on the BMAH since it was released.

Still, I'll give you my opinion. It really doesn't matter. Those "rewards" are outdated. VERY outdated. They should have never been removed in the first place (except perhaps the arcanite ripper, I'll give you that one, since it was a one-time thing like the tabard of the protector, and not a whole raid/dungeon reward by itself, that was available for months), just like every mount after those weren't removed (exception being the ToC mounts, sadly). Content - be it dungeons themselves or specific items from them - should never, in my opinion, be removed, for the sole reason that those people who think themselves "worthy" of having exclusive items that no one else can touch, will always have their own up-to-date rewards that no one else will be able to touch for at least an entire expansion.
Every new tier, you get new status symbols that make you stand out from other people around you. Why then, shouldn't other players be able to more easily access older "prestige" rewards, when you're getting between two to three new ones every tier, that the vast majority of the population can't touch? How is that such a problem?

[ringpriest]

I'd agree with you, if not for the fact that buying gold isn't really something endorsed by Blizzard, or a lot of us players for that matter. Buying gold is, for all intents and purposes, as bad as exploiting. Obtaining enough gold for these vanity items in a legit way will take enough effort to warrant the mount's availability as a gold sink. And even ignoring for a moment their cost, it's not like these mounts will be up on the BMAH 24/7, all the time, always available. You won't suddenly have a mob of players riding on plagued proto-drakes because of this. Just like you don't have mobs of players riding other rare drop mounts that are on the BMAH since it was released.

Guardian Cub
http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100001590

[Theholypally]

What fucking pricks bringing back the plagued protos. YOU COULDNT just give veteran players the plagued and black proto drakes could you? you simply fucking couldnt.

Whats next? the Black proto drakes too?

Assholes.

[Adramalech]

Guardian Cub
http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100001590

That's buying gold as much as I'm a tooth fairy.

Not to mention that it's a topic that has been beaten to death more than "mages are op!!!!1".

[azurrei]

I have a plagued drake...but I don't mind them bringing it back on the BMAH.

It is FAR BETTER THAN THE ALTERNATIVE, which is re-attach it to the achievement meaning everyone under the sun would have one. So maybe 1-3 of them are available per year, per server - whatever, it will still be rare.... and I will always have the satisfaction of beating one of the most difficult hard modes in WotLK - OS3D 10 man in Naxx gear...with the time stamp on the achievement to prove it.

[taurenguard]

Bring back black proto drake please not plagued and to all whiners that say they worked hard in naxx all i have to say is lmfao.

[Tommo]

Ok so by your logic we should all say how wonderful this is. I LOVE THIS CHANGE ITS THE BEST. (x1 for everyone who posts) Oh look now a discussion forum turned into a fanboy praise ceremony. Get real.

[Adalace]

That Curse weekly roundup has great potential, but they deliver the valuable information in such an annoyingly flippant way that it becomes difficult for me to continue watching.

[det]

Oh look, it is the expected whine about mounts on the AH. Got the plagued and the rusted even on two chars. Don't even see anyone using them and you can even like...2-4 man and party solo those achieves? So does it really matter to some guys?

Aparently does. And apparently Blizzard doesn't care. So there will be like a max of 1 guy buying these on each server. Maybe? BIG deal.

[TobiasX]

Damn you blizzard, let me earn that sun-lute in-game without resorting to your BMAH >_<

[lewisderp]

I'd agree with you, if not for the fact that buying gold isn't really something endorsed by Blizzard, or a lot of us players for that matter. Buying gold is, for all intents and purposes, as bad as exploiting. Obtaining enough gold for these vanity items in a legit way will take enough effort to warrant the mount's availability as a gold sink. And even ignoring for a moment their cost, it's not like these mounts will be up on the BMAH 24/7, all the time, always available. You won't suddenly have a mob of players riding on plagued proto-drakes because of this. Just like you don't have mobs of players riding other rare drop mounts that are on the BMAH since it was released.

Still, I'll give you my opinion. It really doesn't matter. Those "rewards" are outdated. VERY outdated. They should have never been removed in the first place (except perhaps the arcanite ripper, I'll give you that one, since it was a one-time thing like the tabard of the protector, and not a whole raid/dungeon reward by itself, that was available for months), just like every mount after those weren't removed (exception being the ToC mounts, sadly). Content - be it dungeons themselves or specific items from them - should never, in my opinion, be removed, for the sole reason that those people who think themselves "worthy" of having exclusive items that no one else can touch, will always have their own up-to-date rewards that no one else will be able to touch for at least an entire expansion.
Every new tier, you get new status symbols that make you stand out from other people around you. Why then, shouldn't other players be able to more easily access older "prestige" rewards, when you're getting between two to three new ones every tier, that the vast majority of the population can't touch? How is that such a problem?

I suppose that's where our opinions differ, where my opinion is that if you've earned something you should keep it. I'm not 100% for keeping items out of the game, but I'm more for the concept of having to put forward an equal amount of effort to gain an item. And farming a boss for 2 years doesn't count as "effort" in my brain - I'm more thinking of achievements which are like "Kill all bosses in X raid at level Y with no higher item level than Z".

Blizzard have new technology which allows the player to tone down their item level to a certain amount in challenge modes, this feature could surely be ported over somehow. If this happened, would you then be happy? No content is being removed (if anything it is saving more content, as players have to run the raid instead of just going to the BMAH), the effort required stays the same, and those who are hungry for epeen can get their mounts before anyone else at the same rate as per usual, meaning they have nothing to complain about.

[nekobaka]

If you can't see how freaking small and harmless it is that a handful of people are going to have a mount/vanity weapon that isn't obtainable anymore, then I can do nothing more than laugh.

As someone who did try to get one and always ended up with someone derping up insanity and then having the mount become "available" again except only to the few who are rich enough is a punch to the gut of those who tried and then was told f u by Blizzard.

[warcraftmew]

Death Knight (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
¨What do you think of DK survival in pvp? I quit mine because I realized in premop patch that we were going to be easy target
If you can get a DK to blow all def cooldowns, then they're easier to kill, but you still have Blood Presence. (Source)


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yeah blizzard since frost and unholy are the pvp specs for highest damage im sure i want to sit in blood presence seriously the blizz blues get dumber everyday do they even play there fucking game in pvp, ghostcrawler knows fuck all bout anything gj blizz guess dk's arnt gonna get buffed til about 2014

[ExtremeActionTess]

Some things should've not been touched and Arcanite Ripper is one of them.

Cause all the unlucky people who didn't win it during the event can all rot in hell, amirite?

[Aurora]

Interesting precedent for adding original content to the BMAH. Turned out to be a very nice addition for MoP.

[dahorst]

Every Mione video makes me want to stab myself in the ears, grats though.

[PaintOnASign]

Bring back black proto drake please not plagued and to all whiners that say they worked hard in naxx all i have to say is lmfao.

If it was so easy to get, why should they bring it back? It's still one of the rarest mounts to have. Naxx wasn't hard by any means, but it was hard to get through all of the 25m encounters in a single lockout without anyone dying. And yeah, they shouldn't bring it back.

[Twilightdawn]

How good exactly is the Puppy build, as in how far would i get via certain games, would it be able to run say Elder Scrolls Online, or WoW at Ultra?

[Dragon9870]

Um... Chaud, I really don't want to sound like a dick, but some of those tweets (the ones I recognize right away: The general Class tweets and the Mage ones) are from weeks ago. RoP Castable on the Move even says Nov 24th... >.>