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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudor View Post
    my guild is actually top 133 ish world last time i checked. Where is your armory then?
    Realm Rank 9.

    Not even World Top 500. 551 to be exact.

    Sorry couldn't resist.

    OT: Stop being elitist, not everyone is a raider nor does everyone care what random people think in easy heroics. You think you are so much better than you actually are, nobody cares how good you think you are at a video game.

    Kisho is 100% right here btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speaketh the truth View Post
    May I recommend, if you're doing your own homework, don't do a Google search. Seems to me that Google is pretty deeply in bed with the government. Maybe this is explaining why Google is being kicked out of all the other countries? Are they just a shill now for the United States government? Who is Jared Cohen? Is he private citizen or government operative? And isn't this the second Google guy we've found? This is the second Google executive now being exposed as an instigator of a revolution.
    I have to say, that this is the most humorous stuff I've read in a while. I love you man, just be careful because the MMO-Champ mods can be pretty ruthless. :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leyowin View Post
    Think about the first time you played WoW. Now add maybe 1-2 months to that, remember how well you played? There are people who don't play this game in ANY kind of serious manner. I have the same mindset that you do, "How can people play a game long enough to get max level and still not understand it?", but I'm guessing you lack humility to remember times when you were just as bad as they were.
    When I was new, it was in vanilla. Everyone sucked then. I ran 10 man UBRS, scholomance, stratholme and some raids even though I was like 12 year old or something.
    I don't remember much from raiding at that time, but we mostly spent time wiping on trash in MC than do bosses. UBRS took 5+ hours and we had many breaks due to people leaving or going afk and needed to replace. I learned more in TBC, got help from better players and I took their advice and improved since I didnt wanna be a burden to the group I was in. Months later after I got my dungeon gear/PvP weapons I went to karazhan, ZA, gruul and magtheridon with pugs and got my gear. I joined a guild and cleared TK, SCC and some of BT.

    The climb from being a worthless noob to a semi pro raider was long, but with the will to learn anyone can do it. That will and perseverance is something the community lacks today. And do you know why? Its because they dont have to improve. Wanna do hcs? Go do them, they require no skill whatsoever. Wanna stand in fire? Go for it! Your group will carry you. The boss in 5 man hc has no enrage and you can be the worthless dumbshit you were ment to be.

    Wanna see raids? LFR is for you! Wanna be useless in a group of 25 people no matter how many people try to help you improve while you refuse to listen? Go for it, you dont need to improve unless you want to raid normals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisho View Post
    You have no right to demand anything more than that when the content you're running doesn't demand more. If you're still clearing the heroics/LFR, then they're doing plenty. Let them do what they want and have fun in their own way.
    He has every right to demand HE IS THE GREAT MUDOR the greatest player ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Also a disgrace to raiders, people like him give them such a bad name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudor View Post
    I do scenarios from time to time. Its fast and easy VP. But sometimes I simply dont have time for it before raids. I don't wanna do it in weekends as I dont play then as I got better things to do. Maybe 2-3 ish scenarios a week is what I do. I havent done dailies since I got exalted with august celestials. Simply not enough time anymore. Then again, I wish that you can cap VP completely by doing normal/HC raids alone.
    I don't fully understand this reply, you're saying you have the time for a heroic dungeon but not a scenario? Scenarios goes even faster. =/ And if you don't have time for either, then I suppose that's simply the way it is...

    Also about getting valor cap from simply running raids, I believe the main reason Blizzard didn't make it so is because most people do have more time on their hands and want something aside from those, however many times per week you run raids, to do something else. Such as daily quests, scenarios or heroic dungeon runs.

    I fully understand that not everyone wants to or have the time to run other things outside of raiding, but you have to understand that just because you have a limited amount of time to spend on the game, you're not entitled to get everything during that time-span. It's all about prioritization, either your prioritize the game, or your real life. You can't eat the muffin and still save it for later. =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaja View Post
    Realm Rank 9.

    Not even World Top 500. 551 to be exact.

    Sorry couldn't resist.

    OT: Stop being elitist, not everyone is a raider nor does everyone care what random people think in easy heroics. You think you are so much better than you actually are, nobody cares how good you think you are at a video game.

    Kisho is 100% right here btw.

    Yep youre right. Checked it right now =)

    However 10 man don't count in my eyes so we're rank 4. And I'm fine with that. I love my guild no matter where we are. We are however close on amber shaper HC (30%) and Imperial Vizier Hc (17%).

    So when we get those down we'll be rank 3 or 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudor View Post
    Yep youre right. Checked it right now =)

    However 10 man don't count in my eyes so we're rank 4. And I'm fine with that. I love my guild no matter where we are. We are however close on amber shaper HC (30%) and Imperial Vizier Hc (17%).

    So when we get those down we'll be rank 3 or 2.
    No, you are rank 9. Not rank 4. Not rank 3. Not rank 2. You are rank 9. Blizz has stated many many times that both 10 and 25man count at the same numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airwaves View Post
    No, you are rank 9. Not rank 4. Not rank 3. Not rank 2. You are rank 9. Blizz has stated many many times that both 10 and 25man count at the same numbers.
    "in my eyes"

    My personal opinion. I'm entitled to my own opinion don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airwaves View Post
    No, you are rank 9. Not rank 4. Not rank 3. Not rank 2. You are rank 9. Blizz has stated many many times that both 10 and 25man count at the same numbers.
    Meh. Most people I know still don't count 10 mans lol. He said, "in his eyes" anyways. It doesn't count in my eyes either. I have nothing against 10 man raiding, it's just not the same competition to me. Hell, it's not even the same style of gameplay to me lol. I've been in both environments. I've led raids in 10 and 25. It's not even close to the same to me. To me. My eyes. Key words here.

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    i my eyes you are a xxx. stop being shuts a pain in the ass. just admin your a elitest jerks. like you act in all your other posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtua View Post
    Meh. Most people I know still don't count 10 mans lol. He said, "in his eyes" anyways. It doesn't count in my eyes either. I have nothing against 10 man raiding, it's just not the same competition to me. Hell, it's not even the same style of gameplay to me lol. I've been in both environments. I've led raids in 10 and 25. It's not even close to the same to me. To me. My eyes. Key words here.

    Exact the same here. I raided 10 man during t11-t12. Got a new computer that could handle 25 man and I switched guild during DS. 25 has always been my thing, but in cata my old computer could not handle fights like maloriak 25 hc or halfus 25 hc resulting me being benched coz of lagg and I went 10 man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loki504 View Post
    i my eyes you are a xxx. stop being shuts a pain in the ass. just admin your a elitest jerks. like you act in all your other posts.
    I'm trying to decipher this post. Was this directed at me, or Mudor? I'm not an admin of Elitist Jerks, though I am a fan of the website. I don't think I've ever actually posed as one. I don't think Mudor has either. Also, I don't think either he or myself have done anything to warrant being an "xxx." Whatever that is.

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    Rankings are not based on opinions, they are rankings based on what rank you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speaketh the truth View Post
    Hate is on a scale, and is growing on a planetary scale of unprecedented size. The violent elitists are coming to our streets, all of our streets, to smash, to tear down, to kill, to bankrupt, to destroy. It is will be global in its nature and global in its scope.

    Honestly, this is how you people sound. Stand together, as players of the same union. We are all brothers here. This hatemongering is not helping anybody.
    I agree, Glenn. I think that a divided Azeroth is a weakened Azeroth. We need to seriously consider what Wrathion's warnings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaja View Post
    Rankings are not based on opinions, they are rankings based on what rank you are.
    You can still interpret them however way you want, though. IIRC WoWprogress even lets you filter out 10 man guilds. So you can see 25 man rankings only if you want. And that's all I looked at and cared about when I was an officer of a 25 man heroic raiding guild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudor View Post
    "in my eyes"

    My personal opinion. I'm entitled to my own opinion don't you think?
    No because your "opinion" is from an elitest asshole, self entitled little prick. Who is a massive asshole to his fellow wow players. I have raided just as long as you and have only just stopped. And not one point in those 8 years have i taken such an asshole stance on other players. Nor has anyone i have ever raided with which goes into the 100s of players. You are a very very small minority that give raiders such a bad name. You are a disgrace to raiders and should not be welcome anywhere.

    Yes I am going to get a temp ban for this but having known you have read it that is all good.

    Btw you arn't even that good. Everyone in my guild would beat you in dps and we play with aussie lag.
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    The very title of this thread gave me an idea of what sort of person you're like. You chose to use the word "make". Instead of "help". People play this game for different reasons, some people are casuals who want to do Heroics for fun, not to cap valor. They don't care about number crunching and hitting every button perfectly timed to do the same DPS that would be expected in a Heroic raid, they play for FUN.

    I assure you that you will not be fun for these people to play with, the same reason these people are not the type of people you want to play with. You have an option to group with guildies, however you ignore it because your guildies don't want to do heroics.

    Your answer is here. People play this game for different reasons, people don't need to be MADE to learn, they want different things than you. Get of your high horse and stop thinking this game revolves around elitists, it doesn't. If anything it's you that needs to be made to learn to empathise with others and see things from their point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtua View Post
    You can still interpret them however way you want, though. IIRC WoWprogress even lets you filter out 10 man guilds. So you can see 25 man rankings only if you want. And that's all I looked at and cared about when I was an officer of a 25 man heroic raiding guild.
    Fair enough but it is not a true representation of where you stand. There are 10man guilds with more progression thus a higher ranking. I don't want this to be a 10 v 25 argument but as long as the world rankings represent them both together then that is how they stand. Method are World Rank 2 but the first 25man guild to clear.

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    I'm glad i'm not the only one who has seen and/or used the term mouthbreathers to describe the festering pool that is LFG (both LFR and LFD) although to be quite honest, as of late, i'm not so sure it's people who are terribly bad, but rather bot programs that are so simplistic that they just can't do anything else. Meanwhile the "player" (read cheater) is watching tv or out doing something else and still getting their valour.

    It is for that reason that i never mass rez in LFR or LFG or rez people individually on my healers unless they have spoken in party chat a few times prior to the wipe/death. It's a nice way to get a nice swift kick from the group for bots i find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudor View Post
    When I was new, it was in vanilla. Everyone sucked then.
    So, because everyone sucked then, it was okay for you to suck too, but because now you're better, other people aren't allowed to suck?

    Seems legit.

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    I guess you should get an awesome guild then and run dungeons with awesome people who are as awesome as you, because you sound like you're fucking awesome! /brofist

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