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Well, I don't know when people have seen this supposed "You MUST speak english" message but thus far the evidence posted from modern realm has not proven anything other than encouraging of usage and looking at the chat rules part of ToS from my recently reinstalled and updated 1.12 WoW client, it has no mention about about languages at all (Except of course for the foul one, duh).
Should get my hands on a preview of the original realm selection fairly soon aswell to just to prove the point further.
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i said i dont think it was ever in the ToS, just that little message i posted last page. but thats not a rule, more of a guideline of that server, i dont think anywhere says its bannable to not speak English. the only way i thought you could get a speaking ban on wow was through spamming a chat channel. i dont think the person in ops post got banned just for speaking a different language.
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i dont think ive ever read a ToS in my life.
There are only servers dedicated to English/German/French/Spanish/Russian/Italian in Europe. Where are all others that don't speak one of these languages supposed to play? If it was suspendable, Blizzard would have to suspend a buttload of players on EU realms.
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EU realm? US realm?
In either way however I am not buying the story from your friend.
Europe.... is a melting pot of languages. Every few hundred miles a whole new language. Wouldn't make sense there.
US...... It's completely normal to see french communication on US realms. After all many Canadians speak french. Besides, and here's the kicker, the USA has probably the most strict minority protection laws of any modern country. Such action wouldn't be just a strike the account holder has to take, it would be subject to a lawsuit which Blizzard would lose for sure. The TOU isn't a waterproof pamphlet that's above all law.
It is a discrimination of a minority, if such action was taken by Blizz, and the law in the US is very touchy on that matter.
That's most likely the background why the wording change on the language selection.
You should select, instead of you have to select.
I've talked German in public channels times and again. There was never any problem.
Now, however, if someone thinks to use a foreign language to mask the content, like talking shit and/or cussing at someone else, who just doesn't understand it. Then we have another situation.
Are you sure he didn't say something rude in French?
Either way it's not a rule to speak in a foreign language on an English Speaking server.
However I do wish Blizzard policed this better and more rigorously. For those of us who are from the UK and only speak English we will go and join an English realm because that's what we expect to speak, so it's damn frustrating when we trade chat full of what are most of the time Scandinavians speaking some language only they understand that is not the official language of the server.
Your friend probably did something wrong and lied to you.
So all in all if that's the main issue someone has with the game, then I think the game is in a great spot.
Been there several times.
Blizzard should be trying to make servers for those demographics as it's the cause of this language barrier problem, currently they seem to acknowledge this considering only recently they made Italian and Portuguese servers.
My suggestion more an after thought after such servers were implemented. I'm sorry I failed to mention that.
Not to mention how when I as a Brit go to an English speaking server I expect to see that language used as it's the one I speak and the language the server is labelled as.
If you wish to form a guild that speaks that language you are fully welcome to do so, but don't go around on a English speaking Server speaking some other language when it just serves to isolate those who only speak the official language of the server.
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Besides where would you draw the line? Should people using l33t speak be punished too? Or acronyms like ROFLMAO and LOL? These can be confusing to a lot of people too... I know I'm spliiting hairs here, but still it's clear you must be careful, because basically it's like shunning people that want nothing more than you, play the game in an environment where they want to speak their own language yet they have no place to go.
And on a personal note, I can enjoy the foreign languages every now and then, trying to figure out what they're saying. We have Danish, Swedish, English, Dutch and Belgian people in our guild and we do sometimes chat in our native language only to be made fun of by the others mostly
This might have made sense on release when you had no idea how the servers were going to turn out and you might have ended up on one that's full of only Turks who speak no English but these days it's all stable and you can figure out the facts about the server you're planning to roll on before you even log in on the game. It's what, you know, most of us do. If we have to ask around to find the Finnish/Swedish/Dutch/whatever server, you're not going to get much sympathy for your complaint that English speakers are having to actually ask around about servers to find one without foreigners.Not to mention how when I as a Brit go to an English speaking server I expect to see that language used as it's the one I speak and the language the server is labelled as.
Especially not since your problem is that you don't want to see foreigners, our problem is just actually finding the one server with our compatriots. I don't give a fuck if there's some language that I don't understand on trade chat. It's not like I'm going to go join that Greek guild even if Blizzard were to force them to recruit in English...
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If you're *totally* new to WoW and video gaming and have no one to talk to, the game recommends some empty servers for newcomers. Those servers are pretty much guaranteed to not have a dominant trade chat language apart from English since they are, you know, empty, while all the people of a particular nationality conspiring to roll on a particular server tend to populate it pretty well...