"The automatic correction – resource depletion destroying the machine that was driving it – that many environmentalists foresaw is not going to happen. The problem we face is not that there is too little oil, but that there is too much."
This is a bad dream for some i believe:
"The world's most powerful nation is again becoming an oil state, and if the political transformation of its northern neighbour is anything to go by, the results will not be pretty"
Last edited by larrakeyah; 2013-01-15 at 01:30 PM.
The discussion about "peak oil" is irrelevant to this thread, and we should get back on topic, folks.
Global warming is a fact, just the causes are heavily debated.
I think for anyone who does any serious (so, look at the actual scientific reports) research it's pretty obvious that we're not helping the situation, though.
Someone brought resources depletion to the debate, so someone cared. It has a lot to do with climate change or global warming or whatever it's called, the enviromentalist paradigm (I'm generous here) has changed from the exhausting of resources to the evil of those same resources. When they realised they couldn't keep telling the "running out of X" lie they changed to blaming the use of the same resources "we should have exhausted years ago".
Stopping right now, the mod posted while i was typing.
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We have 250 years of oil left.
That doesn't mean that all 250 of those years will be cheap. Extraction can get expensive when the sources become inefficient.
That's not even taking into consideration the effects on the environment, which is what this entire thread is about.
You can lead a person to knowledge, but you can't make them think.
So, I guess the humor is in torching the fuck out of strawmen. Have fun, I guess.
California has also been declared the worst place to start a business in the country for like 9 years running.
They have plenty of climate mitigation strategies in play, though.
Hell, in Taiwan the water companies actually thank you when you use less water, not charge you more.
Climate changed has happened before continues to happen and will continue to happen as long as there is an earth.
Did you know it was a lot hotter during the time of the dinosaurs than now?
We have geologically speaking just come out of an iceage. Now are we adding to this? Probably but we've only have a few years of data to go by and with these sorts of things more study is required.
One thing is for sure we are consuming a lot of the natural resources, look at fish for example we really should be allowing fish stocks to re-supply more effectively but in the EU they just allow them to continue over fishing. madness to the max.