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    I think I wiped the raid

    does mannoroth's fury effect the distance that soulburn/curse of elements applies .

    because I was just doing some lfr and the cc'd adds keep popping on wind lord mel'jarak soon after the pull about when I used it.

    like 3 raids fell apart because we kept pulling everything and there was so much nerd raging because they couldn't figure out who was popping everything.

    I used archimondes vengeance instead and there wasn't a problem

    not sure still if it was me but I think it might have been, a soulburn/curse of elements would apply it to everything without about 45 yards right, instead of 15 roughly as it's 500%

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    curse of the elements does no damage so cant break cc. also that talent only effects damaging aoe spells
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    what? you wiped on the adds of wind lord mel'jarak?

    the adds only popp when to much of them are cc´d, curse of elements isn´t a cc, it could only be a very strange bug, but i doubt it

    why the hell did the raid wipe on them? it´s just lfr, adds + boss = aedmg -> 28g50s
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    No, someone with a stun in their rotation fucked it up and so ccéd the fourth add, which makes the boss open up all ccéd mobs.
    Most probably a fire mage doing damage to an add and using combustion.

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    http://www.wowhead.com/spell=103112

    well it is listed as modifying soulburn:curse

    also spears aren't a conventional cc so i'm not sure if that rule applies, just seemed odd after I stopped used the talent we didn't have a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripponesan View Post
    No, someone with a stun in their rotation fucked it up and so ccéd the fourth add, which makes the boss open up all ccéd mobs.
    Most probably a fire mage doing damage to an add and using combustion.
    Pretty sure most short duration/rotational stuns don't work on those adds(Fists of Fury doesn't, even though there's no reason to use it in that phase of the fight anyway)
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    also, on another note, why would you even cc them in lfr? ive never done anything but stack them and aoe in there lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladeface View Post
    also, on another note, why would you even cc them in lfr? ive never done anything but stack them and aoe in there lmao
    What class do you play?

    EDIT: Sorry my bad early for me lol just saw your armory link

    You've been lucky you've had someone dispelling the buff from the adds then. Its a very simple fight if people know whats what. I've probably wiped in there more than any other boss in LFR and as a paladin I feel somewhat powerless to prevent it :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    What class do you play?
    uhh.... my armory is in my signature...
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    yeah my bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    yeah my bad
    hmm.... i just noticed something off about my armory tho.... it says my EQ ilvl is 486 but when im logged in it says 488...


    edit: oh wow thats why blizzard didnt update the armory to account for upgraded items lol
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    Lol, AoElord.

    Wiping on an aoe dps fest. No one single person can be to blame for that, most of the raid must have sucked.

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    Have they nerfed it or something? I thought if you ham up the CC and too many menders are free they buff the adds with a stacking haste/dmg buff and before all the mobs are AoE'd down people start dying is that just low raid AoE DpS then?

    It doesn't bother me that it happens much, I can see the cause of the wipes stacking up, I just can't do anything about it once they're all in 'the pile'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    it could only be a very strange bug
    hah, i see what you did there, even if you didnt mean to
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    I went full retard on HC mode and mortal coiled an add, the 3 second fear breaks every other CC around, it sucks, might have been the reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jawless Jones View Post
    hah, i see what you did there, even if you didnt mean to
    not intended
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakkarioth View Post
    I went full retard on HC mode and mortal coiled an add, the 3 second fear breaks every other CC around, it sucks, might have been the reason?
    Just a friendly advice, make a macro that mortal coils the boss, that's the way to use that heal in this particular fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripponesan View Post
    No, someone with a stun in their rotation fucked it up and so ccéd the fourth add, which makes the boss open up all ccéd mobs.
    Most probably a fire mage doing damage to an add and using combustion.
    Almost 100% sure they are stun immune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    it´s just lfr, adds + boss = aedmg -> 28g50s
    That just made my day hahahahaha

    Now on the OP's subject yeah my friend Mannoroth's Fury can break the ccs because if the cced adds get damaged you eventually break the ccs (meaning if you have a dot ticking on them it will keep breaking the ccs just soul swap off them and reapply the ccs and you're good to go).

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    you wiped a LFR raid ? Shame on you. its not like I have NEVER done that before and laughed like a maniac
    That being said, if you used SOC the the resulting explosion will break CC. and that is the fault of the tanks for not moving the boss / adds away from CC'ed mobs

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