View Poll Results: Should America go metric?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xindi View Post
    Except of course the scientists actually achieving those firsts tend (being scientists after all) to be working in SI units...
    Which just goes to show that our country works fine using imperial units for day-to-day usage and SI for engineering/science type uses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by capitano666 View Post
    I'm a programmer, I assure you it is really annoying when you see something like 01-05-2012 and you don't know what the hell is that
    YYYY/MM/DD for life. Or long date format, at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by capitano666 View Post
    It can be done gradually, let's say for example that a new hypothetical law says every new road sign has to include both measures, and in 20 years all the new road signs will only contain metric values.
    This way you have no extra expense at all, you just insert the new system in the normal road sign replacement cycle.
    I don't think you realize, or appreciate, just how many signs there are in the US. Even done gradually it would be a massive undertaking that would cost a crap load of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    I guess I don't really know when this would become a problem. I'm trying to imagine a circumstance where large amounts of time and money are wasted, and I'm failing to do so.
    Didn't a space probe crash into a planet/moon because a majority of the components were reading/outputting metric and some others were in imperial. So when the probe was 1 KM from the surface, and the thrusters said 1 mile, it descended and crashed in a billion dollar pile of ashes

    found it on CNN http://articles.cnn.com/1999-09-30/t...eam?_s=PM:TECH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    But it's more like 483! See, potential invaders will totally underestimate the distance and run short on gas...
    Oh right. I forgot the nine thousandths of a kilometer more each mile has. That'll get them redcoats!
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    Converting between imperial and metrc(SI) is easy. More so if you've got a smartphone. Converting WITHIN imperial, that's what the hassle.

    Had you been using a hexanumerical system it would have been a different story!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrenchieKDC View Post
    On the topic of temperature - I use Kelvin; it is the better system.
    It's the same scale as Celsius, just uses the absolute zero (temperature at which even Oxygen freezes) as 0 degrees, whereas Celsius uses the freezing and evaporation temperatures for 0 and 100 degrees

    Also Metric>Imperial in any way possible. If in doubt, look at the picture in OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasffion View Post
    I don't think you realize, or appreciate, just how many signs there are in the US. Even done gradually it would be a massive undertaking that would cost a crap load of money.
    Not really. Those signs have to be replaced every so often anyway. If they're just changed then, it's not really that big of an undertaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blastit View Post
    no because its easy enough to understand for americans, but yuropoors dont know out system so it confuses them. It gives us the upper hand come invasion of the USA. its 300 miles to atlanta, how many kilometres is that
    first of all we couldn´t invade the US even if we wanted to... second we own calculators, it´s not like that we can´t mulitply or divide... and third being able to easy convert from volume to length is pretty practical, but do as you please it is really none of my business
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    Not really. Those signs have to be replaced every so often anyway. If they're just changed then, it's not really that big of an undertaking.
    Newer signs can last up to about 20 years. That's more than "every so often".

    EDIT: I think people might also be forgetting that it's not just the overhead signs and the 300 miles to X signs but also the mile markers and exit signs (that are based on mile markers) that would need to be changed.
    Last edited by Dasffion; 2012-12-14 at 02:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasffion View Post
    Newer signs can last up to about 20 years. That's more than "every so often".

    EDIT: I think people might also be forgetting that it's not just the overhead signs and the 300 miles to X signs but also the mile markers and exit signs (that are based on mile markers) that would need to be changed.
    just imagine how fast you´re allowed to drive going from mph to kmh only because of the signs without changing your cars xD hell yeaaah

    ---------- Post added 2012-12-14 at 03:59 PM ----------

    no officier i was going 130 mph .. what? that´s kmh, whats a kmh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by uopayroll View Post
    Didn't a space probe crash into a planet/moon because a majority of the components were reading/outputting metric and some others were in imperial. So when the probe was 1 KM from the surface, and the thrusters said 1 mile, it descended and crashed in a billion dollar pile of ashes
    What I have learned from physics value without unit behind it means nothing, like 10.

    You need to specify if it is 10m 10km or 10mile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasffion View Post
    Newer signs can last up to about 20 years. That's more than "every so often".

    EDIT: I think people might also be forgetting that it's not just the overhead signs and the 300 miles to X signs but also the mile markers and exit signs (that are based on mile markers) that would need to be changed.
    So? Change them when their 20 years are up. It's not as if all the signs out there right now are brand new, either. You'd get some percentage of the signs changed over each year until all signs had both notations on them, then you'd start changing to metric only. The whole thing might take ~40 years, but if we care about it enough, that's really not a big deal, and the costs wouldn't really be much more than the costs were going to be if we stuck with Imperial units.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    So? Change them when their 20 years are up. It's not as if all the signs out there right now are brand new, either. You'd get some percentage of the signs changed over each year until all signs had both notations on them, then you'd start changing to metric only. The whole thing might take ~40 years, but if we care about it enough, that's really not a big deal, and the costs wouldn't really be much more than the costs were going to be if we stuck with Imperial units.
    Yeah, I don't think anyone cares that much about it. It's really not worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pfeff View Post
    American. No. But metric does make more sense, as does Celsius, but it's not that hard to remember conversions for either...like, at all...Besides, Fahrenheit is much much much more accurate as there is 180 degrees between freezing and boiling as opposed to 100 Celsius
    I have seen a lot of Americans say this, which just doesn't make sense.

    Celsius and Fahrenheit , or even Kelvin, are just different measure units, which has nothing to do with accuracy.

    Celsius devides freezing point/boilling point difference into 100 degree, which is just easier to comprehend.

    If you want accuracy, you can go 23.13479438574398 C, which is more accurate than 123.001 F.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasffion View Post
    Yeah, I don't think anyone cares that much about it. It's really not worth it.
    Well "we don't care" sounds like a reasonable argument to me. "We'd have to spend tons of money switching all the signs" doesn't.

    I'd like to see us move towards metric, but I don't care enough to really do anything about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashblond View Post
    I have seen a lot of Americans say this, which just doesn't make sense.

    Celsius and Fahrenheit , or even Kelvin, are just different measure units, which has nothing to do with accuracy.

    Celsius devides freezing point/boilling point difference into 100 degree, which is just easier to comprehend.

    If you want accuracy, you can go 23.13479438574398 C, which is more accurate than 123.001 F.
    They just mean Fahrenheit has more granularity to its whole units.
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    Celisius was a swede, reason in itself to use it ;o
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakis View Post
    Celisius was a swede, reason in itself to use it ;o
    You nationalist zealot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    You nationalist zealot!
    Shhh dont tell anyone
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    Except there was no Russian Invasion into Crimea.
    Not like Putin acknowledged it on national tv..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annoying View Post
    YYYY/MM/DD for life. Or long date format, at least.
    I could live with that, but in many cases it is not the standard

    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    So? Change them when their 20 years are up. It's not as if all the signs out there right now are brand new, either. You'd get some percentage of the signs changed over each year until all signs had both notations on them, then you'd start changing to metric only. The whole thing might take ~40 years, but if we care about it enough, that's really not a big deal, and the costs wouldn't really be much more than the costs were going to be if we stuck with Imperial units.
    Exactly, I'm not arguing that you should change them, but as Reeve is pointing out there wouldn't be much extra cost. Actually the only cost would be updating the factories where those signs are produced so that they print 2 numbers instead of one.

    These countries are using the same road signs and started changing them in 1978.

    Not a big deal.
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