View Poll Results: Should America go metric?

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  • Yes, and I'm American.

    320 26.00%
  • No, and I'm American.

    144 11.70%
  • Yes, and I'm NOT American.

    741 60.19%
  • No, and I'm NOT American.

    26 2.11%
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  1. #921
    Quote Originally Posted by Wowalixi View Post
    I thought talking to me was like talking to a wall? Why are you even responding?
    Because this is a different topic. Don`t make big general claims if you have absolutely nothing to back it up with.

  2. #922
    Quote Originally Posted by DWguild View Post
    Because this is a different topic. Don`t make big general claims if you have absolutely nothing to back it up with.
    Are you implying that building our country's defenses and keeping up a well-trained military is not important to a successful nation?

  3. #923
    Quote Originally Posted by Wowalixi View Post
    Are you implying that building our country's defenses and keeping up a well-trained military is not important to a successful nation?
    I'd argue a good education system and proper health care is more important.

  4. #924
    Quote Originally Posted by Alixie View Post
    Hell no. I love the biased graphs btw. I think of all the songs that have miles in them, have them replaced with kilometers (I would walk a thousand kilometers to see you!) and think how silly it sounds.

    Metric just has a very scientific sound to me, that it sounds out of place in regular conversations.
    I keep wondering why some of you call this "biased". It's not a political discussion, there's nothign to be biased about.
    Especially ridiculous when your entire argument is based around changing a word in songs. Goes to show that the resistance against metric conversion is nothing but stubborn refusal with no basis in reason or logic.

    Also, in sweden, we have something called "mil" after kilometer. 10 kilometers is 1 mil. I'm quite sure that's part of the metric system.

  5. #925
    Quote Originally Posted by Kakokun View Post
    I'd argue a good education system and proper health care is more important.
    That wasn't the initial argument though. I'm not really here to argue the values of education and health care versus military spending. I do think it's ridiculous to suggest cutting military spending to fund a cultural shift in whether we use inches or centimeters.

  6. #926
    Quote Originally Posted by Wowalixi View Post
    That wasn't the initial argument though. I'm not really here to argue the values of education and health care versus military spending. I do think it's ridiculous to suggest cutting military spending to fund a cultural shift in whether we use inches or centimeters.
    Well my argument is that in this day and age a bloated military budget is actually not that important to a successful nation.

  7. #927
    I am all for metric (from France) however kelvin would make much more sense than celcius :<. That being said their units do scale so it's not that far off =].

  8. #928
    Quote Originally Posted by Kakokun View Post
    I'd argue a good education system and proper health care is more important.
    The greater importance of some things doesn't equals to other things shouldn't or couldn't be done as well. The equal function and success of many parts of the system of society is what makes a working nation, not one thing over another. Just felt I needed to point that out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wowalixi View Post
    That wasn't the initial argument though. I'm not really here to argue the values of education and health care versus military spending. I do think it's ridiculous to suggest cutting military spending to fund a cultural shift in whether we use inches or centimeters.
    Simply because the American public is still so much against higher taxes. People need to realize that doing things costs money. But getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan would mean the US would get a lot more money for other things.

  9. #929
    Quote Originally Posted by Kakokun View Post
    Well my argument is that in this day and age a bloated military budget is actually not that important to a successful nation.
    That really depends on perspective. I grew up in a town where 60% of the town made it's living through the government contractors that created system for the military to use. Many modern day conventions were invented because of original military purposes, GPS being a major one. Now these things may have been invented anyways, of course, but I wouldn't say that military spending is that much of a waste of money.

    But like I said, that wasn't my point. I was just wondering if people sincerely think we should cut national defense spending in order to implement the Metric system.

    Simply because the American public is still so much against higher taxes. People need to realize that doing things costs money. But getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan would mean the US would get a lot more money for other things.
    In our current economic situation I'd be in favor of pulling out of Afghanistan and Iraq just so we can stop spending that money period.

  10. #930
    Quote Originally Posted by Wowalixi View Post
    That really depends on perspective. I grew up in a town where 60% of the town made it's living through the government contractors that created system for the military to use. Many modern day conventions were invented because of original military purposes, GPS being a major one. Now these things may have been invented anyways, of course, but I wouldn't say that military spending is that much of a waste of money.

    But like I said, that wasn't my point. I was just wondering if people sincerely think we should cut national defense spending in order to implement the Metric system.
    Well how much would actually have to be changed in order to implement the metric system?

  11. #931
    Quote Originally Posted by Kakokun View Post
    Well how much would actually have to be changed in order to implement the metric system?
    Street signs, speedometers (I think most modern cars have both, but some like my own don't) which would cost money to the user themselves, gas stations, grocery stores, etc would all have to adjust to the change. I'm sure public awareness campaigns would have to be undertaken since not everyone keeps abreast on changes going on around them and might get confused by the changes.

  12. #932
    Quote Originally Posted by Wowalixi View Post
    Street signs, speedometers (I think most modern cars have both, but some like my own don't) which would cost money to the user themselves, gas stations, grocery stores, etc would all have to adjust to the change. I'm sure public awareness campaigns would have to be undertaken since not everyone keeps abreast on changes going on around them and might get confused by the changes.
    So pretty much everything except those jobs that deal with things that uses the metric system.

    I guess you could try a "we have to move money from this budget to this other budget so while we're doing that lets move more money into the other budget and fix other stuff" but I guess that's quite unlikely.

  13. #933
    Quote Originally Posted by Wowalixi View Post
    Street signs, speedometers (I think most modern cars have both, but some like my own don't) which would cost money to the user themselves, gas stations, grocery stores, etc would all have to adjust to the change. I'm sure public awareness campaigns would have to be undertaken since not everyone keeps abreast on changes going on around them and might get confused by the changes.
    thing is most people are already educated in the metric system (well they should be) and you dont actually need everything in metric. The UK is a metric country but still uses miles/mph for vehicles certain measurements are still done or referred to in imperial depending on the age of the person or what your dealing with. Like a quarter inch vs 6.35ml.

    thing that usa has that pisses me off the most.. month - day -year WTF is all that bout? it reallly makes no damned sense! Handing my passport as ID in Vegas and the retard going... this is fake there is no 30th month.. /FACEPALM!

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    1) It's not metric, it's SI.

    2) Yes, the US should convert to SI. Point of fact, I would hazard a lot more money is wasted on doing conversions for products currently than would be spent metricating.
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  15. #935
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsubodia View Post
    thing is most people are already educated in the metric system (well they should be) and you dont actually need everything in metric. The UK is a metric country but still uses miles/mph for vehicles certain measurements are still done or referred to in imperial depending on the age of the person or what your dealing with. Like a quarter inch vs 6.35ml.

    thing that usa has that pisses me off the most.. month - day -year WTF is all that bout? it reallly makes no damned sense! Handing my passport as ID in Vegas and the retard going... this is fake there is no 30th month.. /FACEPALM!
    Well that's just stupidity. I would think anyone would do a double take and realize what's going on with the passport.

    As for your suggestion, if they want to do it that's fine, but I don't really see how it would really change anything. Any sector that needs Metric already uses it, and every other sector / the common public won't give two fucks as long as they know the distance to work and how tall you need to ride a roller coaster.

    BTW, just curious, how do roller coasters in other countries give height requirements? Most over here say like, 42 inches which is 3 and a half feet. So is that 1 meter and 15 centimeters (or whatever it translates to)? Or is it just 315 centimeters? Etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wowalixi View Post
    Well that's just stupidity. I would think anyone would do a double take and realize what's going on with the passport.

    As for your suggestion, if they want to do it that's fine, but I don't really see how it would really change anything. Any sector that needs Metric already uses it, and every other sector / the common public won't give two fucks as long as they know the distance to work and how tall you need to ride a roller coaster.

    BTW, just curious, how do roller coasters in other countries give height requirements? Most over here say like, 42 inches which is 3 and a half feet. So is that 1 meter and 15 centimeters (or whatever it translates to)? Or is it just 315 centimeters? Etc.
    Either or. Technically metres is more correct given that it is an SI base unit.
    Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.
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  17. #937
    Quote Originally Posted by Wowalixi View Post
    Well that's just stupidity. I would think anyone would do a double take and realize what's going on with the passport.

    As for your suggestion, if they want to do it that's fine, but I don't really see how it would really change anything. Any sector that needs Metric already uses it, and every other sector / the common public won't give two fucks as long as they know the distance to work and how tall you need to ride a roller coaster.

    BTW, just curious, how do roller coasters in other countries give height requirements? Most over here say like, 42 inches which is 3 and a half feet. So is that 1 meter and 15 centimeters (or whatever it translates to)? Or is it just 315 centimeters? Etc.
    42 inches is just over 1 meter. being picky its 1066.8 ( ithink) metric height for 1meter 15centimeters would be 1.15metres.. any ways we just have signs saying you must be this high to ride Michael.. i mean the roller-coaster.. cardboard sight with an arrow or a line

  18. #938
    Should we go metric by the end of like...2013? Hell no.

    Should we start teaching metric along with imperial and eventually just drop the latter? Sure!

    Edit: To be honest, I don't see the big deal. There's 2.54 cm's in an inch. OH NO, it's not a nice number. I personally can live without it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lopk View Post
    Should we go metric by the end of like...2013? Hell no.

    Should we start teaching metric along with imperial and eventually just drop the latter? Sure!
    It takes about two decades to metricate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiea View Post
    Doesn't seem to stop us from being the first to get to Mars
    I'm sorry, I know this is now 46 pages back and won't get picked up by Valiea, but what a stupid thing to say.

    Are you seriously claiming that you wouldn't have been able to do the Mars landing because of the Metric system?

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