Still, I don't do it myself. I blame him for being the reason why up until now the blood elves have been reluctant top trust the Alliance, but I don't condemn every human as evil because one of them was a racist asshole. xD
And honestly, you can't, YOU CAN'T skim over the fact that this was the second time Sunreaver traitors screwed over the Kirin Tor and the alliance. You call alliance fanboys biased when you are just as much. Do you really expect Jaina to just say "Okay guys, this was the second time you have betrayed me, but guys, don't do it again! just lets have vanilla icecream"
Can you truly think that Jaina is just going to let treason slide for a third time? That's either naive or dumb, but I call your bias not letting you think realistically.
We all know that most Sunreavers are innocent, and it sucks for them, but the actions of the few DO condemn all; because they as an organization where already in the dog house, and again, Aethas incompetence to police his own people made the Sunreavers a liability for Kirin tor's intentions. You again make biased assumptions with reversing the roles, you DON'T know what would Jaina have done if the Silver Covenant stole the bell. Stop it.
And I find all of your post about this so maddening because I normally agree with you, but in this case your faction bias is just crippling to your arguments.
And one more thing: I try to understand the factions action's in the context of war. The Horde has done some pretty sketchy things, but they served military purposes, it was warranted, it is a part of war, it's justified in the context. So in fairness, I can only extend the same parameters to the alliance. And if we put it in relative terms, Dalaran was a walk in the park on a sunny day.
So again, please drop the bias, it's unbecoming and doesn't do anything for the discussion of you cannot be realistic and honest.
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Lor'themar actually comments on this during the Dalaran finale, "Their bigotry and distrust is what drove the Sin'dorei into the Horde in the first place!"
Last edited by Rhozul; 2012-12-16 at 07:19 PM.
The Blood Elves are a nice race, but they don't deserve any lore development. They already got enough. A whole patch was based on them, AKA the Sunwell with Kil'Jaeden's return. The Draenei and Gnomes deserve much more love than any other race sadly, especially with how much potential they have. Gnomes are more refined than goblins, and the Draenei are some of the most powerful sorcerers and clerics in the lore, rivaling humans and elves.
It's a shame that Blizzard neglects much more interesting races than the Horde's.
The Blood Elves treason was terrible, but Jaina's lack of judgement is worse. A few traitors don't represent a whole race.
Last edited by Norgannon the Dreamweaver; 2012-12-16 at 08:08 PM.
It's not supposed to be a universal fact, lol. Draenei just have more potential than any other race due to their vague culture. We hardly know anything about them, giving many ideas/possibilities for their story. (if they ever even give them one)
blood elves were kind of rotting there since their minimal participation on WotLK.
I agree gnomes and the draenei need some lore but you can't expect blizz to put it on the horde quests, can you? lol
Ah man I love the blood elves Hate that I play Alliance and miss out on all this awesome stuff though ;(
I find people that say there are blizz apologists and fanboys to be the most annoying types of players and forums posters. They often live in the game and take it way too seriously.
Perfect example of why "community" forums are poisonous to the health of a development team. These developers are wasting hundreds of hours trying to stem the tide of incessant bitchery that would never, ever abate so long as these entitled, unfortunate human beings don't get their way.
It gives the Forsaken some story, I really can't imagine them being on Pandaria without them making it worse for the Horde given how their antics have for the most part been mostly unsupervised.
Not to mention how I believe it was Metzen or Kosak mentioned how implementing Worgen and Gilnean architecture was hard. So why not just go back there then as that will solve two issues. The only problem would be turning parts of a phased Gilneas into an Alliance hub as the zone is just unused after the starting experience. Although the problem ofc is no Horde equivalent.
I don't want to see Gilneas be an inaccessible place for Alliance, but once it is I would imagine it would make Horde players naturally a little jealous.
Last edited by Scummer; 2012-12-16 at 08:56 PM.
He who sees his own doom can better avoid its path. He who sees the doom of others can deliver it.
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