View Poll Results: Do you Support Assault Weapons Ban?

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  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by Alcomo View Post
    Best damn thing the USA ever did if it passes!! All that's left is to get handguns out of their hands too!
    Great, so then we'll just be just completely fucked with criminals running rampant with firearms and law-abiding citizens left defenseless.

    Opinion invalid.

  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by whathump View Post
    And back then when muskets and cannons were the only weapons of war, it would have been a lot easier to overthrow a tyrannical government. The US military is probably the most well equipped and well armed force in the world. Short of allowing average citizens to own tanks and machine guns and anti-aircraft missiles, the average citizen doesn't have much chance to resist the military. The only realistic way tyranny could be prevented nowadays is if the military refused to go along with the tyranny. Either way, the point of average citizens owning assault weapons for resisting the government is lost, unless the plan is to go out and let some people buy the weapons and vehicles the military uses.
    So your suggestion is the 2nd amendment is outdated due to the modernization of the military, and thus we should just repeal it?

    The 2nd amendment's spirit alone keeps the government from trying to become too tight with its laws. The point of it is to provide citizens with the means if anything should occur. That means acting before things get too out of control. Look at how people respond to even taking away some of their guns. Do you really think the people will respond any better when more of their freedoms are threatened? That's the freedom the 2nd amendment gives us, the freedom that at any time the people could revolt and overthrow the government with their weaponry and the United States government knows that. They have to tread carefully when it comes to this amendment because of the spirit of it, not because of the practical implications.

    Besides the fact that we're assuming the United States military wouldn't revolt against a tyrant at the same time. But too many assumptions are being thrown around here.

  3. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by Dch48 View Post
    Yet another attempt by the Democrats to use a tragedy as an excuse to take away Constitutional rights. We were meant to have access to the same kinds of weaponry as the Gov't in the event of it becoming necessary to rise up against them like the founders did. There are already too many restrictions in place that violate the intent of the second amendment. Passing such a bill would only compound the tragedy that has occurred.
    I believe the worst infringement on our rights recently has been the PARTIOT Act which was a republican sponsored bill. The Bush administration pretty much said FU to your privacy. Theres also the defense act that recently gave the government the power to detain you indefinitely without charging you for anything if they think you are a terrorist. That bill was supported by both parties though.

    Oh and republicans also want to take away your rights to vote(voter ID) and to get an abortion. The pretty much just want to make it illegal to do anything they dont like.
    Last edited by Prokne; 2012-12-16 at 09:35 PM.

  4. #224
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coombs View Post
    What the fuck are you talking about? Yes, most in the military are fucking stupid losers with no other option than being enlisted, and most are fucking criminals. Very little brainwashing though, aside from how they all say the exact some catchphrases and chuckle wildly to themselves at their own wit.
    Not allowed to join with a serious criminal record, any more bullshit lies you wish to tell?

  5. #225
    Conn. Where the shooting occured has an assault weapons ban. I don't know why people think assault weapons are just willy nilly all over the place available like candy. In most states to own an actual assault weapon you need a special liscense that costs a shit load of money, also no kid is buying an assault weapon, they cost well above the 1.5k mark most of the time. Most AR-15 come with a small clip and are hunting weapons made light weight. Assault weapon bans do little to nothing to stop things like school shootings. You can do what these people do with hand guns, as proven many times. Also people predisposed to doing an act of organized violence will just use bombs, see oklahoma city, if they really want to do it and bomb building websites are pretty easy to find on the internet.
    Last edited by Zoldor; 2012-12-16 at 09:35 PM.

  6. #226
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebane View Post
    Comparing civilian life nowadays to armed tension between states almost a hundred years ago is smrt. Rael smrt.

    Anyway, bout time, who needs an assault rifle ?
    How many "national tragedys" wil it take for people to open their eyes ?
    When a politician's family member gets harmed or killed, until then who gives a shit about the common folk out there
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  7. #227
    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    Not allowed to join with a serious criminal record, any more bullshit lies you wish to tell?
    That is the keyword. Just because you haven't been caught for something serious doesn't mean that you can't get into the military with a criminal record. There are serious issues in the Army specifically with gang members starting cliques within the military. You can have a criminal record and still be admitted to the army after a psych evaluation. Most people with serious criminal records are in jail.

  8. #228
    Quote Originally Posted by Alcomo View Post
    Best damn thing the USA ever did if it passes!! All that's left is to get handguns out of their hands too!



    Which is why the states will always be number one in the world for shootings! They can't smarten up after the last 15 school shootings in 2 years.

    And que: "it aint our guns, its dem people". I ask the people who can only repeat this line over and over, if it isn't your guns than why do countries with even higher populations but complete gun bans have far FAR less shootings and all around homicides than you? Nope, sure can't be those guns of yours, no sir!
    I recall Canada having some guy stab a random person on a bus who was sleeping to death then cut off his head. Then the guy was released two years later... But you keep running your mouth about your perfection.

  9. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by starkey View Post
    When a politician's family member gets harmed or killed, until then who gives a shit about the common folk out there
    Um, Tucson Arizona. Rep Gab Giffords shot in the head? Judge killed there too, are you dense?

  10. #230
    Quote Originally Posted by RICH1471 View Post
    Not allowed to join with a serious criminal record, any more bullshit lies you wish to tell?
    You can't join with felonies, but others you can, and many have them.

  11. #231
    Quote Originally Posted by Coombs View Post
    You can't join with felonies, but others you can, and many have them.
    Yes you can, and I personally knew a guy while in the AF that had a felony waiver.

    http://www.military.com/NewsContent/...125220,00.html

    Don't talk if you don't know.

  12. #232
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShuttleXpC View Post
    Um, Tucson Arizona. Rep Gab Giffords shot in the head? Judge killed there too, are you dense?
    I said family member cant you read, not the law makers
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  13. #233
    Its me or are americans somewhat paranoid?

    All this "Tyranny" crap, fighting their own government and shit.

    Really, what the fuck is wrong with you? Your fucking small firearms wont do shit against the gov's forces, so stop beating on this dead horse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riidii View Post
    Great, so then we'll just be just completely fucked with criminals running rampant with firearms and law-abiding citizens left defenseless.

    Opinion invalid.
    Oh the ignorance. 3/4 of those criminals guns were likely legal at one time to begin with. You can thank your BS gun laws for giving them the guns in the first place. Also the "we will be left defenseless" line always brings out a good laugh. You do know that more innocent people are killed by your "defenses" than the actual people you plan on protecting yourselves from right?

    Lastly, why is it every other country with strict gun laws have no problem with armed criminals breaking into their homes? Amazing how that works, countries with less or no guns have far less shootings! Too bad so many Americans can't seem to figure this one out and instead just want more innocent people dead...

    Guns>lives seems to be the attitude which is just sickening

  15. #235
    Quote Originally Posted by ShuttleXpC View Post
    Yes you can, and I personally knew a guy while in the AF that had a felony waiver.

    http://www.military.com/NewsContent/...125220,00.html

    Don't talk if you don't know.
    Was in for 10 years, and I never saw anyone with a felony get in. Felony waivers are pretty impossible to get usually.

  16. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by starkey View Post
    I said family member cant you read, not the law makers
    I can read, but you're being idiotic when you think a chief judge and rep shot in the head don't count as you try to twist your idiotic statement to suit not knowing history.

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    It seems to me our laws are working fine.

    This guy who did the shootings tried to get a gun a few days or so before and was rejected. Now, should that be a red flag when someone tries to get one and is rejected, and should they be paid a visit to find out exactly why they wanted one? Sure.

    He got the guns used by other, non-legal (stole from his mother) means. Which is exactly what will happen if shit's banned. People who have the real desire to do something like this, will find a way.
    They can dynamite Devil Reef, but that will bring no relief, Y'ha-nthlei is deeper than they know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coombs View Post
    I recall Canada having some guy stab a random person on a bus who was sleeping to death then cut off his head. Then the guy was released two years later... But you keep running your mouth about your perfection.
    That's amazing! You came up with a single incident with a single person involved and compared it to the states, who in the time it took to write this, probably had 10 of those incidents! Did you know that Detroit has an average of one murder a day and that Windsor, Ontario, which is right across the water, has had one in the last 4 years?

    Or better comparison, Toronto, a city of 3 million people, has had 32 shooting deaths in the last year. Again with Detroit, a city of 700k people, has 1 a day, or 365+ a year. Do the math on what happens when you have gun control please.
    Last edited by Alcomo; 2012-12-16 at 09:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShuttleXpC View Post
    I can read, but you're being idiotic when you think a chief judge and rep shot in the head don't count as you try to twist your idiotic statement to suit not knowing history.
    So you call me names lol dude chill out its only children
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  20. #240
    Quote Originally Posted by Roveredo View Post
    Its me or are americans somewhat paranoid?

    All this "Tyranny" crap, fighting their own government and shit.

    Really, what the fuck is wrong with you? Your fucking small firearms wont do shit against the gov's forces, so stop beating on this dead horse.
    So in the case of a civil war or genocide situation, we should take take it up the ass?

    Don't act like these things have never occurred. They are going on right the fuck now.

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