Mega-Thread: Gun Control Thread

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Another funny thing is that in the Obamacare thread many people, including some of the posters in this thread are expressing outrage over GOP wasting time and money on attempts to overturn it.

And yet I see no outrage on the part of dems in place like Chicago also wasting time and money on pointless defences of their unconstitutional gun control laws. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Do you come up with this stuff by yourself or does someone write for you?
Cause if that's the case, fire him.

[jugzilla]

Let's see: mass shootings and suicides tend to have a similar cause: mental illness. Are you saying it's impossible to detect mental illness in a background check?

Yes, that is pretty much impossible right now. Unless you were involuntarily commited, and your state shares that info with the NCIS, you slip right through.

Oh and mandatory hunter safety classes are allready required.

[rhandric]

Basic human right <<< Right to cling to to inanimate objects is all I read from you.

It's probably why the increased murder rates don't trouble you, and why I never got a number on exactly how many need to die before it becomes wrong.

Because there's no arbitrary line, which you'd know if you actually thought about it for half a second

[Zoranon]

Do you come up with this stuff by yourself or does someone write for you?
Cause if that's the case, fire him.

Do you post anything that is not either logical fallacy or ad hominem?

Edit: A quick look through you post history told me you dont. Oh well another ***** for the ignore list.

[Rukentuts]

Because there's no arbitrary line, which you'd know if you actually thought about it for half a second

Yeah, there's no arbitrary line, so let's protect our "right" to weapons so more can die. Brilliant!

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Do you post anything that is not either logical fallacy or as hominem?

That's hilarious after your ongoing false equivalency show.

[Deleted]

Do you post anything that is not either logical fallacy or as hominem?

Edit: A quick look through you post history told me you dont. Oh well another ***** for the ignore list.

Ahahah this coming from YOU?! Well fuck me I'm flattered. By the way in surprised I wasn't in your list already.
Thanks though. Hopefully that means you won't answer to me anymore. We can but hope.

[Zoranon]

Ahahah this coming from YOU?! Well fuck me I'm flattered. By the way in surprised I wasn't in your list already.
Thanks though. Hopefully that means you won't answer to me anymore. We can but hope.

Unfortunately for you, your posts are too amusing to be passed up. As long as you continue to post logical fallacies in this thread I will counter them.

[Rukentuts]

Thanks though. Hopefully that means you won't answer to me anymore. We can but hope.

It's nirvana.

[Jaxi]

It means there's a lot of stupid ass people.

You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity. Growing up with firearms, I was always taught the basic tenants of firearm safety. Never point the barrel at an individual, keep your finger out of the trigger well unless you're ready to shoot, always verify a gun is empty when someone hands it to you, etc, etc. Not everyone has that privilege. Other than Pre-9-11's "lock your guns up" argument, it's actually the most compelling reason I have to support any form of gun control.

[Deleted]

Unfortunately for you, your posts are too amusing to be passed up. As long as you continue to post logical fallacies in this thread I will counter them.

Ah darn it. Don't bring my hopes up if you're not going to do it man.

[Zoranon]

Ah darn it. Don't bring my hopes up if you're not going to do it man.

Well part of it is also a hope (admittedly a very naive one) that you might overcome yourself and actually post something that has a point.

[vaeevictiss]

So killing someone for self defense is not an homicide anymore?
Do you guys like... hear yourself talking or?

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Actually if you read carefully it's Steven sea gal, his Korean counterpart
Thanks ol' t9

never said it wasn't. But it is justifiable homicide...i.e. victim turned the situation around.

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Basic human right <<< Right to cling to to inanimate objects is all I read from you.

It's probably why the increased murder rates don't trouble you, and why I never got a number on exactly how many need to die before it becomes wrong.

Interesting...these wouldnt be the same inanimate objects that you claim are killing everyone and that should be banished are they?

and i never said anything about being reckless with a hunting rifle.

[Deleted]

Well part of it is also a hope (admittedly a very naive one) that you might overcome yourself and actually post something that has a point.

*yawn* werent you ignoring me or something?

[Tinykong]

*yawn* werent you ignoring me or something?

The irony is overwhelming.

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Nope because violence doesnt mean:


Violence is something the BAD GUYS do in movies. Steven sea gal never used violence in his movie cause he's a GOOD GUY! OU YEAH!!

Is accidentally discharging a firearm and injuring yourself violence?

Considering you're the guy who claims the police engage in lawful violence everyday, again, I'm sure you can make that leap.

[Rukentuts]

Is accidentally discharging a firearm and injuring yourself violence?

Can't tell if serious.

Because yes.

[Tinykong]

So killing someone for self defense is not an homicide anymore?
Do you guys like... hear yourself talking or?

Justified shootings are not considered violent crime by the FBI, therefore, should not be considered "gun violence." The violence part speaks to criminality.

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Can't tell if serious.

Because yes.

If you're willing to make that mental disconnection to get those statistics to fit into your argument, I don't think there is much hope in having a discussion.

[Deleted]

The irony is overwhelming.

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Is accidentally discharging a firearm and injuring yourself violence?

Considering you're the guy who claims the police engage in lawful violence everyday, again, I'm sure you can make that leap.

I do claim that because its true. Did you read the definition of violence 20 times like i told you? No? Oh that's why you're still parroting this ridicolous point like a broken record.

[Rukentuts]

If you're willing to make that mental disconnection to get those statistics to fit into your argument, I don't think there is much hope in having a discussion.

It's only violent if you intend for it to happen?

I'm sure manslaughter convicts will take heart if that's the case.

Don't be mad that red states as per my previous map have more gun violence.

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Justified shootings are not considered violent crime by the FBI, therefore, should not be considered "gun violence." The violence part speaks to criminality.

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If you're willing to make that mental disconnection to get those statistics to fit into your argument, I don't think there is much hope in having a discussion.

But they're considered GUN RELATED DEATH you champ. Ahahahahahahahah
Ahah you're hilarious. Do you even know what the fuck is it we are talking about?

[Tinykong]

It's only violent if you intend for it to happen?

I'm sure manslaughter convicts will take heart if that's the case.

Don't be mad that red states as per my previous map have more gun violence.

According to the FBI, it's not a violent crime.

You sure do seem content using the FBI definition of a "mass killing" in support of your arbitrary definition of a "mass shooting," but as soon as someone points out justified shootings are not violent crime, you're willing to ignore the FBI's definitions. That's convenient.

There is no need to create a political affiliation for me as a position to argue against.