How about we do something even easier.
Gang membership has increased 40% in the past 3 years.
Where's the resulting spike in homicides?
How about we do something even easier.
Gang membership has increased 40% in the past 3 years.
Where's the resulting spike in homicides?
Eat yo vegetables
http://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/Co...Bulletin-6.pdf
"Most cities have no gang homicides, and those that do usually report very few of them from year to year (Egley et al., 2006). Rather, it is in a subset of very large cities where the overwhelming majority of them occur, as this report shows. Previous research has shown that these gang homicides tend to occur in spurts, governed by episodic gang conflicts that wax and wane and sometimes extend over a number of years (Block and Block, 1993; Decker, 1996, 2007; Howell and Moore, 2010; Miller, 1982/1992; Papachristos, 2009)"
A recent NGC publication found that a significant percentage (29 percent) of all large cities in the study experienced consistent and high gang-homicide prevalence rates from 1996 to 2009. Annually, in this subgroup of cities, around 40 percent of the homicides were determined to be gang-related.
So whenever there's a large spike in homicide, we can just randomly attribute it to gang violence. Seems like it suits your argument quite well.
I mean if gang membership and homicides were inextricably linked, and we saw a 40 percent increase in gang membership, we should most certainly see at least a slight increase in homicides. We haven't.
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Eat yo vegetables
Yes. The lack of economic opportunity leads to poverty. kids born into poverty see no need for school, without education economic opportunities cant enter the area due to a lack of skilled employes. its a self perpetuating cycle. People under stress often turn to religion for hope others crime, thus religion and gun homicides are higher in areas with high poverty rates.
No to hard to see this.
Well then get your shit together.
Get it all together. And put it in a backpack. All your shit. So it’s together. And if you gotta take it somewhere, take it somewhere, you know, take it to the shit store and sell it, or put it in a shit museum, I don’t care what you do, you just gotta get it together.
Get your shit together
See: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...I-latrun-2.jpg
I do not think many people would argue we should be using these for self defense, though I would love to own one.
Gun ownership is estimated at 36% in 2011 of americans.
With a population of 314 million that's 113 million gun owners
Total gun murders in 2008 10,886
Assuming one murderer per victim that's 10,886 killers
10,886 out of 113 million is a whopping 0.009634%
I think we're doing fine. no new laws are needed, just the ones we already have should be enforced.
If you can't make fun of something, its probably not worth taking seriously.
Great powers of observation. /sarcasm
The South is the only place it lines up.
Most of the Southwest region (California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado) have higher homicide rates despite light gun ownership. Utah, right in the middle of those states, has higher gun ownership but a lower homicide rate. Going up to the Northern Central US we have high gun ownership in Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota, and South Dakota, but low homicide rates. Wyoming, in particular, has the highest gun ownership, but a very low homicide rate.
And then there's Illinois, New York, Maryland, DC, Delaware, Connecticut, and Florida with high homicide rates and relatively lower gun ownership. And what about West Virginia, with a higher gun ownership rate than all the states around it but with the lowest homicide rate than all the states around it, too.
Yeah, dude, those maps totally line up. You're better than that, Pre 9-11.
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related != caused by
The same conditions that may lead some to crime may also lead others to religion. That hardly means that religion causes poverty or crime.
"The difference between stupidity
and genius is that genius has its limits."
--Alexandre Dumas-fils
You can't guarantee that. There's no guarantee that the person who's able to pull the trigger without thinking would be able to plunge a knife into the heart of someone, cut their throat or commit homicide in another, more hands-on fashion.
I support guns only when accompanied by an attempt to be sure those buying them are relatively safe and educated. 3 months at a state-licensed shooting range, knowledge test and background check.
People who support guns and want less regulation scare me.