Le sigh.
Fused, I was trying to point out that it had already been pointed out that a complete firearms ban would require a Constitutional Amendment repealing the 2nd Amendment. The process for Amending the Constitution requires a 2/3 majority vote in both chambers of Congress (not just a simple majority), and then it would need to be ratified by 3/4 of the states.
I think it's safe to say that it's not going to happen in the foreseeable future.
We're not talking about banning all weapons. The 2nd amendment provides protection for hand guns which is legally defined as for self defense. However this is targeted at certain weapons, for certain reasons. One of which seem's to be the number one firearm for mass killers. I will not get into that debate. You are mis-interpreting what I said on what will pass.
Furthermore the 2nd amendment does not protect against both dangerous and usual weapons that would put it just outside the scope to be protected. You see the supreme court has this cool thing, if federal and state law clash or for almost any reason you can have them hear the case and then they solely would decide if an assault weapons falls under self defense.
If not, then is it both dangerous and unsual. If so. We have a ban to against these weapons and it would be upheld. You are massively missing my point.
Easy, Personal preference.
I'm not debating if it's accurate. Let's say hand guns are number one killer.
It doesn't matter because hand guns are protected. That's why they tried ban hand guns in the 1990's it was struck down by the courts. It's really not that hard to understand.
Assault weapons are not protected or never been defined as anything. It's possible that it could be room to review the weapon and decide on a ban or not. And the best part is, it wouldn't infringe on you're rights.
Uh. Yes. We were.
*rewind*
...which you quoted when you posted...
...to which I responded...
So, yeah, we were talking about banning all weapons.
Yeah. Because that argument holds no weight, as has been shown numerous times before. Still, since it's the right time for it, I'd like to point out how amusing it is that MotherJones corrected their blatantly incorrect data in that article.
The original chart:
vs. the updated chart:
Hey, Fused, notice how only 20/143 firearms used in even this skewed selection of mass shootings would even be considered assault weapons under the more-strict-than-ever-before proposed assault weapons ban?
Number one for mass killers? Hardly. Hell, revolvers and shotguns were used more often than assault weapons. Go fig.
You responded to Eroginous who was talking about a complete ban. So you're the one misinterpreting the context of the current discussion, not I. You can't try to shame me just because I stayed on topic.
And you seem to think that it's a foregone conclusion that so-called "assault weapons" are dangerous and unusual. I don't know how you can call us unrealistic for assuming that the SCOTUS won't uphold that view when you seem so likewise certain that they will. Seems fairly hypocritical.
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You're right, reading is difficult enough... who needs comprehension?Because of the right to bear firearms which are protected under the 2nd amendment. It was in fact banned handguns. Then a Judge struck down part of the law because firearms that fit in you're hand are protected. It's defined as self defense. They cannot write their own rules. They have to follow what's in place.
Again, my post suggested a hypothetical situation... nothing more. IF the CDC produced a study that showed gun ownership IN GENERAL was detrimental to society, there is NO REASON WHY THE LIBERAL AGENDA WOULDN'T SHIFT TOWARDS BANNING ALL GUNS.
For that to happen, you need a constitutional amendment.
Do you understand yet? Should I quote it one more time so you can read it again? Here:
Have a nice day.IF the CDC produced a study that showed gun ownership IN GENERAL was detrimental to society, there is NO REASON WHY THE LIBERAL AGENDA WOULDN'T SHIFT TOWARDS BANNING ALL GUNS.
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