Mega-Thread: Gun Control Thread

[Deleted]

"More guns" isn't the answer to any question that anyone is asking.

For security and moral reasons, it pretty much is.

[lockedout]

"More guns" isn't the answer to any question that anyone is asking.

Gun collector: "What should I buy with my tax returns?"
Let me know if you have any more challenges Tiny.

[kyoloco]

guns are for people who dont lift

[hakujinbakasama]

guns are for people who dont lift

I lift guns and ammo!

On a slightly serious note, gear is heavy yo!

[Tinykong]

Gun collector: "What should I buy with my tax returns?"
Let me know if you have any more challenges Tiny.

That has nothing to do with gun control.

[Stormdash]

guns are for people who dont lift

You obviously haven't seen some of the monsters that go to my range O.O

Of course, "more guns" is also the answer to the question of "what does every new shooter want after they get their first gun?" It's funny how anti-gunners characterize any collection greater than one as an "arsenal" or somehow aberrant... but shooting is not only a hobby, guns are also collectible and come in many different varieties. You get the 'bug' pretty quick once you start.

[TZucchini]

New Pew poll released on firearms.

There's one part that I find particularly interesting. Support for firearm control (as opposed to gun rights) seems to increase with level of educational attainment.

For example, only 68% of those with a High School degree or less support laws barring the mentally ill from buying firearms. In contrast, 91% of post-graduates support that law.

And this is consistent throughout the poll. 47% of HS or less believe its more important to control firearms over protecting firearm rights, compared to 63% of post graduates. 35% of HS or less believe firearms are more likely to put people at risk than protect people from becoming victims, compared to 57% of post graduates.

[Stormdash]

There's one part that I find particularly interesting. Support for firearm control (as opposed to gun rights) seems to increase with level of educational attainment.

Even if true, completely meaningless and irrelevant. Could just as easily put it down to the "book smart" vs. "street smart" distinction.

A note on Houser's and Roof's illegal gun purchases -- just that; if you lie on Form 4473, you are in fact purchasing your firearm illegally whether the check with NICS and/or state database catches you in that lie or not.

[TZucchini]

Even if true, completely meaningless and irrelevant.

I find it quite meaningful and relevant that support for firearm regulation increases (quite drastically) with educational attainment.

[Stormdash]

I find it quite meaningful and relevant that support for firearm regulation increases (quite drastically) with educational attainment.

I don't, and I am highly educated myself. I can think of a decent handful of explanations for those misguided tendencies if the study actually reflects real trends. One of which I already mentioned. Another of which is that's self-fulfilling; since those doing the educating are themselves probably more likely to be nanny-state grabbers, the longer one is subjected to their opinions the more those opinions transfer.

But it's, as I said, irrelevant, because there is no provision by which only people with letters behind their names get a say on the civil rights of all citizens.

[TZucchini]

I can think of a decent handful of explanations

Yeah. The most obvious one being that educated individuals are more likely to look at all the evidence and form an educated opinion.

[Stormdash]

Yeah. The most obvious one being that educated individuals are more likely to look at all the evidence and form an educated opinion.

Or to be cloistered numbnuts who have managed to go their whole lives outside the reach of two-legged predators. Or provincial know-it-alls who figure that whatever they think for themselves should be what everyone else has to conform to. Etc, etc.

[Only the Best]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0e7117ba8e89e

AUGUSTA, Ga. (AP) -- Officials in Georgia say a third-grader who accidentally shot a classmate at school found the weapon while exploring his family's kitchen.

The shooting happened Tuesday at Hornsby Elementary School in Augusta. Authorities said the child was playing with the gun inside a desk when it accidentally discharged, grazing a girl. School officials say she was treated at a hospital and released.

Richmond County Department of School Safety Chief Alfonzo Williams said in a statement the boy was looking around his house for a toy and found the gun hidden in a curio stand in the kitchen. Williams said he used a chair to climb onto a counter to get to the gun.

The students' names weren't released because of their ages.

The Augusta Chronicle ( http://bit.ly/1i47fV4 ) reports that school officials are reviewing security measures.

God bless those parents. They are true, freedom-loving patriots. I really hope authorities don't decide to charge them with anything. All that will do is discourage other parents from allowing their third-grade children to exercise their constitutional second-amendment rights.

[Roxinius]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0e7117ba8e89e



God bless those parents. They are true, freedom-loving patriots. I really hope authorities don't decide to charge them with anything. All that will do is discourage other parents from allowing their third-grade children to exercise their constitutional second-amendment rights.

yeah because those parent represent the millions of gun owners everyday who are responsible nice try though

[Ghostpanther]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0e7117ba8e89e



God bless those parents. They are true, freedom-loving patriots. I really hope authorities don't decide to charge them with anything. All that will do is discourage other parents from allowing their third-grade children to exercise their constitutional second-amendment rights.

Children do not have the Constitutional right to keep and bear firearms. In some states they are allowed to go hunting with adult supervision. You really need to understand how adults are different when it comes to the laws. The case you posted is only about irresponsible storage of a firearm where a child is present.

[Only the Best]

yeah because those parent represent the millions of gun owners everyday who are responsible nice try though

Yeah because that's what I said. Nice try though.

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Children do not have the Constitutional right to keep and bear firearms. In some states they are allowed to go hunting with adult supervision. You really need to understand how adults are different when it comes to the laws. The case you posted is only about irresponsible storage of a firearm where a child is present.

You really need to understand sarcasm.

[smegmage]

New Pew poll released on firearms.

There's one part that I find particularly interesting. Support for firearm control (as opposed to gun rights) seems to increase with level of educational attainment.

For example, only 68% of those with a High School degree or less support laws barring the mentally ill from buying firearms. In contrast, 91% of post-graduates support that law.

And this is consistent throughout the poll. 47% of HS or less believe its more important to control firearms over protecting firearm rights, compared to 63% of post graduates. 35% of HS or less believe firearms are more likely to put people at risk than protect people from becoming victims, compared to 57% of post graduates.

In this day and age where an Arts degree is more highly prized than making an easy 6 figure salary as a tradesman, you'll have to forgive me if I don't give much credence to the thought that education somehow is the be all indicator of sound decision making and rationale.

[Sky High]

In this day and age where an Arts degree is more highly prized than making an easy 6 figure salary as a tradesman, you'll have to forgive me if I don't give much credence to the thought that education somehow is the be all indicator of sound decision making and rationale.

it's not an end all be all inditacor, but seriously we can't ALL be tradesmen.

[Ghostpanther]

[QUOTE=Wes Doobner;35917052]Yeah because that's what I said. Nice try though.

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You really need to learn how to make a valid point.

[Only the Best]

You really need to learn how to make a valid point.

Sorry that it flew over your head. I'll make sure to dumb it down next time.