I cry at night over talent tree absense

[Auberdeen]

I love WoW. I have always loved WoW, talent trees are so fun and make your brain tickle more than anything else. i cry becuase they are gone. i want my trees back and im not kidding im crying i miss them so much ........

[Imnick]

If they made your brain tickle it just meant you didn't understand them
Talent trees were mathematically solved hours after each new iteration was released

[Fenixdown]

Yes, my brain tickled when I used the exact same spec as everybody else for every single fight instead of using a little bit of creativity.

I'm sorry, I forgot to download my sarcasm font. I hope it came through, just the same.

[skitzy129]

Yea honestly having different viable options to choose from for different situations with the current system completely demolishes the old system where every tree only had one real answer.

[JhanZ]

Vanilla specs were the best. That's when there was true versatility, and class balance didn't need to go under a microscope.

[Landin55]

If they made your brain tickle it just meant you didn't understand them
Talent trees were mathematically solved hours after each new iteration was released

QFT /thread all that good stuff.

Infracted. Please post constructively.

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

You want the thoughtless talents that everyone copied each other and there was no meaning to them? No thanks.

[Kildragon]

Vanilla specs were the best. That's when there was true versatility, and class balance didn't need to go under a microscope.

Only because people didn't know better at the time. Reintroduce those exact style trees right now and you'd be facing the exact same thing that happened in later expansions. People would just math out the best specs, end of story.

[JhanZ]

Only because people didn't know better at the time. Reintroduce those exact style trees right now and you'd be facing the exact same thing that happened in later expansions. People would just math out the best specs, end of story.

Sure, but that doesn't make it okay. There's way too much emphasis on math, and class balance today, it's unhealthy for the game because it directly clashes with fun. Things like Arenas really only do harm to this game as a whole.

[Tommo]

MMO Champion, proof that anything Blizz says or does becomes the word of god.

Just cause you chose cookie cutter builds doesnt mean everyone else did.

The new talents are even more faceroll than before, your really not getting as much choice as you think you are. And theres still cookie cutter specs.

[Raleik]

Vanilla specs were the best. That's when there was true versatility, and class balance didn't need to go under a microscope.

Yeah, because Survival Hunters getting Lacerate as their 31 point talent was the high point of WoW talents...

[Landin55]

Sure, but that doesn't make it okay. There's way too much emphasis on math, and class balance today, it's unhealthy for the game because it directly clashes with fun. Things like Arenas really only do harm to this game as a whole.

Class balance has always been an issue that why BC was revolutionary for most people because they no longer were a healer, they could be a DPS or a tank no matter the class (obviously talking about hybrids). Paladins weren't holy only, Priests became more then healers, ETC....

---------- Post added 2013-01-24 at 05:40 AM ----------

MMO Champion, proof that anything Blizz says or does becomes the word of god.

Just cause you chose cookie cutter builds doesnt mean everyone else did.

The new talents are even more faceroll than before, your really not getting as much choice as you think you are. And theres still cookie cutter specs.

Who didn't use Cookie builds and for what? Being a noob isn't a answer =p

[Imnick]

MMO Champion, proof that anything Blizz says or does becomes the word of god.

Just cause you chose cookie cutter builds doesnt mean everyone else did.

The new talents are even more faceroll than before, your really not getting as much choice as you think you are. And theres still cookie cutter specs.

You can say that if you like, but it doesn't change the fact that if you were using a different build then in most cases you were objectively wrong.
Every tree had a few floating points you could swap around, but in PvE at least there were just certain things you had to take or you were guaranteed not to be doing your maximum potential, and there was almost nothing to gain by picking anything else.

[Flaks]

Yes, my brain tickled when I used the exact same spec as everybody else for every single fight instead of using a little bit of creativity.

I'm sorry, I forgot to download my sarcasm font. I hope it came through, just the same.

Contrary to popular belief, not everyone looked up talent trees online.

Contrary to popular belief, not everyone who looked up talent trees online had the exact same talents.

[breadisfunny]

i loved the old talent trees.

[Tommo]

In PvE there will allwaayyss be a perfect spec, thats universal.

In PvP I had a lot of viability, I changed my mages spec more times than ide like to admit.

My hunter was always trying new crazy things.

[skitzy129]

MMO Champion, proof that anything Blizz says or does becomes the word of god.

Just cause you chose cookie cutter builds doesnt mean everyone else did.

The new talents are even more faceroll than before, your really not getting as much choice as you think you are. And theres still cookie cutter specs.

Frankly if you weren't using what everyone else was then you weren't playing optimally. Every top raider was using the same stuff. Every top arena player was using the same stuff.

It's still possible for you to make a sub-optimal build if you really want to like you clearly were before.

[Landin55]

In PvE there will allwaayyss be a perfect spec, thats universal.

In PvP I had a lot of viability, I changed my mages spec more times than ide like to admit.

My hunter was always trying new crazy things.

And the new talents should give you even more choice especially in PVP.

[vindicatorx]

talent trees are so fun and make your brain tickle more than anything else.

there was nothing fun, interesting, or mind challenging about the old talent trees. It was something you would have to adjust once ever few patches and you already knew exactly what you were going to change. I love the new system I can swap out a few abilities anywhere for a few silver.

[Shampro]

Bahahaha old talent tree a choice? Hahahaaa