WoW keeping unprecedented sub numbers over 8 years gets more flak than SWTOR starting with 2 mill and then plummeting to F2P in a year or Rift going from 600k to 250k. It just is like that. People like to see the mighty fall.
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We'll know in late January or early February (can't remember when the next meeting takes place). Until then, who really gives a crap what other people do with their freetime?
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Also I thought that Metacritic wasn't really taken seriously by anyone?
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It wouldn't surprise me if subs went up, because this expansion has had a lot of positive feedback in relation to Cataclysm, with the negative feedback being primarily limited to pvp and people whining about dailies. Nor would it surprise me if it went down, since subs often drop shortly after an expansion release for all the people that placed shortly after release to try it out with no intention of staying, or because they got to the cap and lost interest.
I think the relevant question isn't whether subs went up or down, but whether the number was a substantial change. That none of us can say except Blizzard; it's very hard to project from anecdotal evidence. My gut feeling is subs haven't changed all that much, whatever the direction of change may be.
Personally, I haven't had a single friend stop playing since the expansion started. That might not mean subs are stable or increasing, but it does mean I am enjoying playing with my friends a lot more!
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Most of the negative reviews on most pages (posted above) are from mature players and old WoW veterans who are already tired of the game.
The sales to me seem like something owners do with a bad sports team. Nobody is willing to pay full price to see a bad product so the owner drops the price of tickets so they can make some money over none.
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are people surprised subs will drop a bit? its normal for the subs to peak just after an expac release, then drop again, people act like this means the game is failing. its to be expected.
Our guild had to split off a new guild for crafting alts to keep under the 1000 person member cap. And we're bumping up it again, from all the people returning to play.
Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal.
For those who think blizzard is advertising to much and think WoW is losing subs thats the reason they do it, i think Blizzard is being very clever.
Nowadays gamers will wait with buying a game, because they wanne hear the feedback.
And blizzard is delivering the feedback in these commercials like 'best expansion yet' thats a big positive feedback which can grab new and old players.
Blizzard isn't stupid
Only 56 on 5/5 and 58 under 3/5.
5 star: (56), 4 star: (23), 3 star: (12), 2 star: (12), 1 star: (34)
Let me help with some of them, from the most voted:
4/5: Arrived faster than expected: It came sooner than the estimated date, in good condition. Awesome deal for Black Friday. Would have been nice to just get the code, instead of waiting for the disc to arrive, since nothing really needed to be installed since the last patch.
3/5: A True Review by Dragu : I have played many MMO's throughout my time and have played WOW since 04 release date, there are many pros and cons to the changes that wow has made, ill list them as follows:
Everyone likes a new race so we at least get a completely new race to play with. Monk class is actually a blast to play as well.
The areas are beautiful to look at and huge at that!
Wow still stays at its roots to a certain extent, as far as gameplay, hit a button theres an attack, no diving life guild wars 2
The new pet system is welcomed
A completely new island is always fun to explore and its huge so lots to do
The dungeons are still great and well made
Essentially it's what you expect out of a world of warcraft game. It's not revolutionary but it hasn't changed to the point where it's a completely different game. There are many that are already bored and for some reason they thought it was going to change the whole game for a completely different feel. Know that this is classic world of warcraft with a crappy leveling system. There are many perks and the game is still fun but at some point quest to quest hoping as quick as possible feels like a grind fest. I honestly don't know anyone who reads the quest line.
The leveling system is just horrid!! 6 talents for 90 levels could have been the worst thing world of warcraft has done to its game. There is absolutely no incentive/fun in leveling a toon at all now. Every 15 levels you get to pick 1 skill is ridicules!
I said a new race was nice the only problem is that the new race is a Panda, yes I know pandas have been in the story since the 90s, but that could be the reason no one ever read the stories. Pandas are not a good addition whatsoever; it makes you feel like you're playing a Childs game.
Graphics have been improved but another problem is that framerate in different areas are really bad, and I know it's because there are lots of people in area, but is it odd that guild wars 2 framerate stayed constant even in the heaviest areas meanwhile an 8 year old polished game frames drop and some latency issues.
---Overall if you were a wow player that loved the game but just got bored because of LACK OF CONTENT then you most likely will enjoy this expansion, you may not agree with all the changes but the game does a great job of introducing a lot of new dungeons and features. But if you're a wow player that got bored of the gameplay itself then you will defiantly not enjoy this game, because in my opinion gameplay has not changed and the talent system is horrid. It seems to me that blizzard is focusing more on PVP this expansion and getting ready for a new MMO. But only Future will tell.
1/5: Mist of Dailycraft: This expansion is so gated. The raids are gates even the crafting and reputation are gated. It's obvious, the developers went the route of gating every thing in order to prolong the content. Doing dailies every freaking day is required if you want to get any thing done. You need to do dailies to be able to spend your JP/VP. You need to do dailies to gain reputations with factions for pve items. You need to do dailies to unlock the dailies to grind dailies for another factions reputation. Dailies dailies dailies every day.Plus, Blizzard hasn't introduce an option to not join CRR, then there is the kids factor about this expansion and a big divergence from the death, destruction, and dark themes of the previous expansions.
I hope you read them.... (the 5/5 was not the most voted)
Personally, I require something more than "some random dude on the internet said so" as citation.