Reflecting social patterns and the history of an age.
Beginning with Natasha and her brother, an hussar
Whose cousin Sonya loves him 'cause he's loyal to the Tsar,
His friend, Pierre, a boor who's rich
and his friend, Prince Andrei,
Who hates his wife called Lise who is in the family way!
Andrei goes off to war and Lise dies but leaves a son
And Nicolai is fighting too-- they fight Napoleon!
Pierre's wife's name is Hélène, she's the daughter of Prince Vasily.
Pierre won't go to war, instead he sets his peasants free.
Did I forget to mention Andrei has a sister too?
And Hélène has a brother or is this too much for you?
When Andrei meets Natasha, he loves her heart and soul.
But she meets Hélène's brother, he's a cad.
--Flowers for Algernon (1979 musical)
The first quarter of each WoT book is pretty tough.
You go from reasonably high octane action and lots of plot developments at the end of the previous one and then you get to recap everything that has ever happened in the series for the next 300 pages. Oh and the character idiosyncrasies get a bit much... *tugs braid*
Not wanting to make any of you want to decapitate me but
Anything written by J.R.R Tolkien I found it to have far too lengthy descriptions of incredibly mundane things e.g the rock formations in Moria. Also I recall a scene where it was about 60+ pages of dialog with nothing actually happening.
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So right now, I would have to say The Art of Warfare by Sun-Tzu (The First English Translation Incorporating the Recently Discovered Yin-ch'ueh-shan Texts, translated by Roger Ames). Course, I'm only on page 72, and the introductions/whatever don't end until page 100, after which the first chapter starts. Just.......100 pages of *****ing introduction is killing me.
"There is no teacher but the enemy. No one but the enemy will tell you what the enemy is going to do. No one but the enemy will ever teach you how to destroy and conquer. Only the enemy shows you where you are weak. Only the enemy tells you where he is strong. And the rules of the game are what you can do to him and what you can stop him from doing to you." -Mazer Rackham - Ender's Game Orson Scott Card
I was actually referring to the Council of Elrond scene I thinkThe chapter with Faramir and Eowyn? I skipped that one.
Into Darkness. The name suggested possible darkness and excitement. However it sucked and was boring.
I didn't find it difficult, so much as boring, but I was surprised someone mentioned that here.
I read this like 10~20 years ago, heck, maybe even more! I think. I think it's still on my book-shelf.
Definitely not by Tolkien - even though claimed to be mostly his by his son.
Easily has to be Walden. In comparison, I found Moby Dick far more readable ( I know they're not similar at all), which I also found to be quite a difficult read.
The most difficult I've read isn't necessarily a book, but was tough to read. I've read most of Shakespeare's plays in their original (old English) language. I did enjoy them, but I found myself having to re-read many parts just to understand exactly what was going on.
As for most boring? I'd have to go with just about any of the books I had to read for high school english classes. Most of them have been mentioned in here, but gems like "Lord of the Flies" and "The Things They Carried" were extremely dull to me.
Also, I have read Twilight, and while it is by no means good, it was far better than I was expecting. My expectations were extremely low, so that probably has something to do with it. My expectations for it being good were about as high as my expectations for something like "Shark Attack 3D!" from the SciFi channel being good. More mind numbing "entertainment" than actual substance.
It was a book about history of the Vikings, don't remember the author's name (a Norwegian or Danish historian). When I bought the book I was very excited and couldn't wait to read. It was very detailed, with a lot of references to other historians (contemporary and old), but the language made it extremely boring to read. Perhaps it was a poor translation, or the intended audience was historians such as the author. In any case, I've used that book many times when I needed to fall asleep fast.
Other one was the first book of the "Twilight" series. I attempted to understand the popularity of it, but failed. And regret the wasted time (which does not happen to me very often).
Rincewind: Ah! We may, in fact, have reached the root of the problem. However it's a silly problem and so I am suddenly going to stop talking to you.
The better character questionnaire (D&D)
Before the movies came out, I forced myself to read The Lord of the Rings. I actually can't even stand the movies now.
I've never forced myself through a book before, or since. If a book doesn't grab me, I don't read it.
Simulacra and Simulation is my choice for most difficult book. It's interesting but I can't finish it. Been going on 3 years now of off and on reading.
Moby Dick. Holy crap, nothing happened in that book except him whining on about whale sperm and whale phrenology.
Also, I found Crossroads of Twilight to be considerably less unbearable second time around, when I didn't quite so much read it as one big story, but a collection of shortish stories just kinda going on about what everyone's doing at the end of the previous book. Was still easily the worst book in the series, but not nearly as badly.
"Lord of the Clans" by Christie Golden.
My God, how painfull this book was. I bought a bunch of WoW books just to improve my english, and although "Day of the Dragon" and "The Last Guardian" were kinda okay, this one was horrible. I mean, ALL the characters were the same. Thrall was an orc who wanted his kin to be free, had strong spirit and was brave. Orgrim was an orc who wanted his kin to be free, had strong spirit and was brave. Grom was an orc who wanted his kin to be free, had strong spirit and was brave. Drek'Thar as well. And Taretha, tho she wasn't an orc. Character developement at its highest.
The only thing that could save the book was the villian. A man living with a taint of his fathers betrayal and struggling with his own problem - addiction to alcohol? Great introduction, there is so much you can get from that! But nope, too difficult for the writer I guess. Let's just make him go pretty much insane. I was hoping that the final slash between him and Thrall would be something a little bit more sophisticated, but I guess I was out of my mind.
And the cheesyness. It's just everywhere. Cheesy quotes are being said by Grom Hellscream, Drek'Thar, Thrall, almost everyone. And it's pretty irritating when writing space that should be used to give Grom Hellscream some story, something about his internal struggle with fel energies (seriously, this was barely touched) is used up by him saying quotes like "Where did you learn about mercy?". Just wow.
Bottom line, "Lord of the Clans" sucks major balls. It's not the only book of Golden I've read - I scored "Arthas..." as well. And guess what - it was terrible mashup of bad writing and lines taken straight from the game.
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