Hey everyone, was just checking simcraft, and its displaying MM about 400 dps higher than BM. Has anyone tested this out recently, and if so, is it true?
Hey everyone, was just checking simcraft, and its displaying MM about 400 dps higher than BM. Has anyone tested this out recently, and if so, is it true?
No..
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MM is still one of the worst, if not the worst, DPS spec in the game and I cry a little whenever I see level 90 MM Hunters looking for raids outside of LFR.
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http://www.raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overa...14/30/default/
There's your basis. That's 10 man normal for the past two weeks. Heroics aren't even accurate due to less than 1% of the sample size. If it was that good, people would be using it.
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...&e=1169#Krunok
Further proof. The absolute highest dps I could find from a mm hunter on feng normal, which is about as patchwerk as it gets.
I do also think that MM is not as good as BM or SV, because it can't beat BM in single/burst or SV in AoE, i.e. it has no niche where it beats out any of the two speccs.
but you can't compare the "latest logs" when you have such an underrepresented specc as MM, because there are many effects that make it look worse than it is, for example the very best players won't be playing it, but maybe one or the other casual (unfair comparison). and as not many play MM full time, but maybe once for a change or to get logged in WoL, you don't see many really expierenced MM players that know there specc perfectly. there's just less theoretical knowledge and practice for the MM specc atm. thus it is lowest, even if 5.1 had brought it nearly up to BM level. (which I don't know, haven't testet it myself yet)
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...%A9kaie/simple
Feed me your TEARS!
EDIT: I know raidfinder isn't a place to compare dps, but i had 114k dps on Amber shaper in there, with a better geared BM hunter at 89k, and a bit worse geared survival hunter at 60-something k dps.
Last edited by Garkanh; 2012-12-18 at 07:36 PM.
Yeah... No. MM is complete garbage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H3-N9zoI5c Amazing video of 60+ devilsaurs raiding Undercity!
My God, what a horrible creation. People seeing what they want? Thank God they tried to shy away from that. I know it pisses me off when I'm in an heroic raid, yet in the back of my head all I can think is 'some casual player is playing a heroic dungeon and not wiping.' -Vodkarn
All that tells us is they were worse player than you.
Oh and also:
Amber Strike
Melee Range
Instant 6 sec cooldown
Deals 332500 to 367500 Nature damage to the current hostile target, and interrupts normal spellcasting, as well as a target's attempts to trigger an Amber Explosion. Amber Strike also destabilizes the target, increasing damage taken by 10% for 15 sec.
First: Lolsimcraft. Seriously, it took them 8 months to realize Serpent Sting was screwed up even though World of Logs reported data that wasn't even a close approximation to what simcraft was reporting?
Simcraft can be a useful tool, but it's not produced by Blizzard and doesn't always have correct and up-to-date mechanics. What I stated above is a perfect example of this. Simcraft should never be the basis of a "theory". You shouldn't be linking simcraft results to say something contradictory to the norm then telling others it's their responsibility to disprove your findings with data. If you think the norm is wrong, it's your job to disprove it, not others to maintain it.
There are certain fights in the game where poor overall raid DPS makes people who have a clue look amazing. DW was one so are Elegon and Amber Shaper. Poor overall raid DPS leads to competent DPSers having high uptime during extended vulnerability phases, inflating their numbers.
Take into account the following:
You could have lined up rapid fire/stampede perfectly with high stacks of the debuff late in the fight and they didn't.
They could have been turned and failed at understanding how the mechanics work.
They could have died.
They could just suck at playing a hunter.
Considering this was in LFR. I'd expect the worst case of a combination.