I agree about Sylvannas; she couldn't win against Garrosh 1v1; Garrosh was beating Pre-World Shaman Thrall 1v1 during the Wrath of the Lich King opening event. Look at the line up of Horde leaders; you have two rangers (Sylvannas and Lor'themar), a shaman/hunter (Vol'jin), Gallywix (who likes Garrosh), and Baine. Of the lot, only Baine could potentially hold his own against Garrosh in a fight, and Baine is something of a peacemaker.
In short, I wouldn't call any of those characters "fake-brave." I'd call them survivors first and foremost and tacticians second.
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In such a case, however, who would be his replacement? He (or she) would need some character set-up too.
As for Ji he needs to be treated as a faction leader cause he IS a faction leader he is the leader of the houjin pandaran
he shouldnt be a no name monk trainer he should be a elite boss and same goes to aysa too
OT: Diplomacy ftw. I'm sure Sylvanas could give Garrosh a good run for his money, she's at least twice as devious in her ways. On the other hand, it's easier waiting for someone else to make him bleed and then stab him in the back. It's not as if undead don't have all the time in the world.
There was another topic where the question posed was "Rexxar vs. Garrosh, who ya got?" The answer wasn't resounding in Rexxar's favor, but it definitely was for him. Like you said though, would Rexxar care enough to call Garrosh out on his actions? He's the Champion of the Horde, but is that more like a formality akin to the king and queen of England?
And did anyone else cringe when Garrosh first called Sylvanas a female dog? He accentuated the word so damn much.
Atm the game is setting up the reasons why the horde is gonna turn on garrosh
and tbh we dont need to see a reason why sylvanas and the forsaken hate garrosh we knew why back in cata
Reason why 5.1 is all about the trolls and the belfs and there reasons for a rebellion so i dont expect to see much forsaken storyline untill the end
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id assume Sylvanas stabs Garrosh in the back while hes dying.. but maybe she shoots him in the back being an archer and all.. otherwise if she was an undead leader and a rogue that'd be even better. Remember Sylvanas arrow can 1shot biches.. but i guess it'd make a really sad story if they used that, people would be asking, so why didnt she do it sooner?
MoP will be major for deciding her future. If she doesn't start to make changes toward being less of a Lich Queen, expect her to be on the list of villains for future expansions or WC4.
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Anyway, Pandaria is a land being fought over for resources, both material and 'mortal' (I'd say human, but pandas aren't human). That and faction ego. By and large, the things Pandaria can offer to the living races of either faction really hold little value for Sylvanas and the Forsaken. They need no spiritual exploration beyond devotion to the Shadow or the personality cult surrounding the Dark Lady, they don't really need lumber or farmland or whatever (at least, nowhere near as much as living races) and finally, Pandaren can't be turned into Forsaken. Sylvanas seems to be interested only in bolstering Forsaken ranks, not Horde forces generally.
The main focus of the Forsaken policy of expansion lies on their native continent. They want Lordaeron, both the nation, the majority of the Forsaken's home in life, and the continent forming the upper half of the Eastern Kingdoms, which is also referred to collectively as Lordaeron. They're not interested in off-shore territory, I think.
In summary, I suspect there is little of interest for Sylvanas in Pandaria and investing time and resources in a campaign there would likely just distract the Forsaken from their real objective of expansion, the conquering of Lordaeron. Sure, there might be some powerful artefacts to be found there. But, the Reliquary is already working on acquiring them. And I suspect whatever falls into blood elf possession is pretty much Sylvanas' too.
Yeh. Sylvanas, that old rotten fanservice faction boss, would have "how many arrows you can shoot into Garrosh's back"-race with Vol'jin.
Btw, i could imagine Gallywix being one of the raid bosses, just because "Garrosh is owing me money for rebuilding Org! Must defend him!"
...lol. Imagine if Gallywix and some other goblins would turn into horde version of Defias Brotherhood, hating horde because of unpayed building costs.
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Rexxar has the ability to beat Garrosh. What is your reasoning against this?