where has sylvanas gone?

**Moradim** · 2012-12-19, 04:47 AM

with regard to the inevitable garrosh conflict, where is the dark lady in all this? perhaps one of the most infamous quests of cataclysm has garrosh call her something less than flattering, in silverpine.

do you think we'll see more of her in 5.2? and if so, who will she side with, if anyone?

**Goldscar** · 2012-12-19, 05:25 AM

I did hear she'd make an appearance in 5.2.

She'll obey Garrosh, follow out commands, might make some snide comments, but I really can't see her having a major part during Mists. It isn't really her time in the spot light.

**keksplace** · 2012-12-19, 05:26 AM

Many characters are fake-brave... but when dealing with the might of Hellscream they are.... absent.
If Garrosh is doing such big mistakes... wheres the so called veteran Saurfang to challenge him to an old school duel? Wheres the mighty Rexxar, half orc half ogre to apply a correction to Garrosh? Sylvanas isnt a mano a mano character, she cant challenge Garrosh, for the duel would end in a matter of seconds.

Truth is they are all scared for they know as father as son, Hellscream is too powerful in a 1v1 combat. As his father risen above and eclipsed all, so the son shall be the same.

The time will come when all of them will ally for they might have a chance like that.

**Rarespawn2012** · 2012-12-19, 05:31 AM

5.2 will be Vol'jin's story and I
m sure the belfs and Undead will be together once the rebellion hits.

**Humbugged** · 2012-12-19, 05:35 AM

Undead really have no reason to be in Pandaria. She's likely still focused on capturing the whole of Lordaeron.

**Destil** · 2012-12-19, 05:37 AM

They said she's the one who sparks the revolution.

So.

She'll be coming along soon.

OR

SURPRISE! Garrosh was actually Sylvanas wearing an Orc Costume. Mind=fucked.

**Goldscar** · 2012-12-19, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by Rarespawn2012

5.2 will be Vol'jin's story and I
m sure the belfs and Undead will be together once the rebellion hits.

I've got a bit of a feeling most of Vol'jin's story will be covered in the upcoming book;
http://www.wowpedia.org/Vol'jin:_Shadows_of_the_Horde

**Aeluron Lightsong** · 2012-12-19, 05:37 AM

I wager she is staying quiet to avoid attention to herself.

**Goldscar** · 2012-12-19, 05:39 AM

Originally Posted by Destil

SURPRISE! Garrosh was actually Sylvanas wearing an Orc Costume. Mind=fucked.

Worthy of M. Night Shyamalan

**Airwaves** · 2012-12-19, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by keksplace

Many characters are fake-brave... but when dealing with the might of Hellscream they are.... absent.
If Garrosh is doing such big mistakes... wheres the so called veteran Saurfang to challenge him to an old school duel? Wheres the mighty Rexxar, half orc half ogre to apply a correction to Garrosh? Sylvanas isnt a mano a mano character, she cant challenge Garrosh, for the duel would end in a matter of seconds.

Truth is they are all scared for they know as father as son, Hellscream is too powerful in a 1v1 combat. As his father risen above and eclipsed all, so the son shall be the same.

The time will come when all of them will ally for they might have a chance like that.

Cairne was kicking his ass till the poision kicked in. And that is a old man who would have killed him. Windrunner would have an arrow in his forehead before he could even charge.

**Combooticus** · 2012-12-19, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by Ravenbrew

Worthy of M. Night Shyamalan

What a tweest

Sylvanas is too busy in the undercity getting her kicks torturing koltira for sexual pleasure

**Airwaves** · 2012-12-19, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by Combooticus

What a tweest

Sylvanas is too busy in the undercity getting her kicks torturing koltira for sexual pleasure

Undead still get sexual pleasure?

**keksplace** · 2012-12-19, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by Airwaves

Cairne was kicking his ass till the poision kicked in. And that is a old man who would have killed him. Windrunner would have an arrow in his forehead before he could even charge.

Lady windrunner was making out excuses when confronted with Garrosh face to face... so much for the arrow

As for Cairne atleast he had the guts to challenge Garrosh.. even for stupid reasons like those nightelves druids. And he didnt kick his ass, not one bit. read a little something.

**Rhozul** · 2012-12-19, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by Moradim

with regard to the inevitable garrosh conflict, where is the dark lady in all this? perhaps one of the most infamous quests of cataclysm has garrosh call her something less than flattering, in silverpine.

do you think we'll see more of her in 5.2? and if so, who will she side with, if anyone?

She's around, but honestly 5.1 isn't her story.

As you progress through Dominance Offensive, you'll see that it focuses very heavily on Lor'themar and how his personal feelings about the Horde change and evolve during the course of the Pandaria campaign. And honestly, that's a good thing. We've see what Sylvannas thinks of Garrosh in Silverpine Forest, BEFORE Garrosh started to get a little too big for his britches. Sylvannas makes it clear that she doesn't support or agree with Garrosh at the start of Tides of War, either. In that book, she openly looks to Lor'themar for support, who doesn't say anything. The reason being that he's not a brash person; he's calculating and he's out for the sin'dorei first and foremost. The Dominance Offensive quests do an excellent job illustrating this.

As of 5.1, we know where Vol'jin and, surprisingly, Lor'themar stand in the Horde revolution. We get to see the start of what could very well be the Catalyst in the revolution (Thrall has made plans to go have a talk with Garrosh). And we now know that Baine is poking around the Vale of Eternal Blossoms, which means he's probably going to learn first hand what Garrosh is messing with, and considering he was already in Vol'jin's camp during Tides of War, I think his visit to Pandaria is only going to cement his feelings.

The only Horde leaders who really need development at this point are Gallywix and Ji (assuming you can count Ji as a Horde leader). My gut is telling me that Gallywix is going to be on the losing side of the Seige of Orgrimmar and that Ji's story, however it evolves, is not going to end happily. But we'll see.

**Otaka** · 2012-12-19, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by keksplace

Many characters are fake-brave... but when dealing with the might of Hellscream they are.... absent.
If Garrosh is doing such big mistakes... wheres the so called veteran Saurfang to challenge him to an old school duel? Wheres the mighty Rexxar, half orc half ogre to apply a correction to Garrosh? Sylvanas isnt a mano a mano character, she cant challenge Garrosh, for the duel would end in a matter of seconds.

Truth is they are all scared for they know as father as son, Hellscream is too powerful in a 1v1 combat. As his father risen above and eclipsed all, so the son shall be the same.

The time will come when all of them will ally for they might have a chance like that.

Garrosh has too much brutal power.
Saurfang is getting old.

But I can tell you, Thrall is going to challenge Garrosh for sure. And we already know the winner. FOR THE OLD HORDE!

**Airwaves** · 2012-12-19, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by keksplace

Lady windrunner was making out excuses when confronted with Garrosh face to face... so much for the arrow

As for Cairne atleast he had the guts to challenge Garrosh.. even for stupid reasons like those nightelves druids. And he didnt kick his ass, not one bit. read a little something.

He was winning until hellscream only cut him a little then the poision kicked in. Read a little something! It also smashed his spear which was thanks to the poision not gorehowls power

**Combooticus** · 2012-12-19, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by Airwaves

Undead still get sexual pleasure?

Sado-masochism is the only way they can get off anymore

**Bathory** · 2012-12-19, 05:54 AM

I wouldn't call them Fake-brave. I'd say they are doing what a leader should. They are being diplomatic for as long as possible. The fabric of the horde will splinter long before it actually rips into pieces.

**Kae** · 2012-12-19, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by Destil

SURPRISE! Garrosh was actually Sylvanas wearing an Orc Costume. Mind=fucked.

Well at least it's better than Sylvanas actually being Garrosh in a dark lady costume.

**Haven** · 2012-12-19, 05:56 AM

Might be busy making Koltira a new Undead faction mount.

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