So we need to try and combat this, so soon as the ptr is up we need to test test test to make sure it doesn't happen, I know now I'm back ill find time to do so, whether that data is used with Xel now gone remains to be seen, which is more than a little worriesome!!
Situation when 1 spec is not totally OP you are calling "break the class" ?
Please tell me whats the definition of "break the class" for you ?
Ill write this again - i would love to see that Blizzard would break warlocks same as they breake mages. Becouse warlocks need that atm.
I think you've misunderstood what I'm trying to say so let me try again.
The point I was making was that the fire nerfs came AFTER patch 5.1 meaning clearly they were ignoring the data from the ptr as the 5.1 patch was actually a buff to fire mages with the combustion change, requiring hotfix changes that were very heavy handed and subsequently needed minor buffing. These changes should have come on the ptr where they have free reign to buff and nerf to their hearts content to fine tune the numbers without affecting the live game. Ergo what worrys me is that changes made with the next list of lock nerfs/buffs will ship with 5.2 without decent testing and COULD be very damaging for the class. I've never said mages were broken, fire now just plays clunky and frustrating with bad gear and great with good gear, it's the manner of how these changes happened which was the problem and I don't want a repeat with locks!!!
To say Mages have never been broken clearly didn't play the game in T11. And to be honest, I've not had a Mage with any regularity in raid for years, and only on Spine have I ever thought I wished I had one.
Anyway lets not derail further
I couldn't agree more.
But you know, ptr is like live, in that you have some players who never do anything wierd, who test things, and send in feedback, and then you have the 'fun' bunch, they have their place too...but of the first group, the ones who test? Yah welll, some of them are not so nice too, false info, damning reports, all to slide the scale against classes they do not play.
For example, the steady steam of butthurt tanks over the lock-tanking fiasco.
I hope Blizz GM's have an app for that called bullshit detector. Even still, they need a new version.
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