Reintroduction of head enchants in 5.2. What..??

**Airwaves** · 2012-12-23, 09:29 AM

Wow are people missing the point. IT IS A LEGENDARY ENCHANT!!!!!! You should have to work for it.

**schippie** · 2012-12-23, 01:53 PM

Its not a head enchant what it then is we wont know. Could as well be 1 buff for a period of time. Or just a cosmetic thing.

**Bladeface** · 2012-12-23, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by neanoa

Okay I realise it's not the same system. But I see this new "system" as a much bigger hassle.

* You have to grind mobs (Perhaps while doing dailies, but I know personally I don't feel the need to grind or do dailies on alts)
* You have to do raids of some sort, and you have to have a bit of luck to get sigils.
* You have to get item level above 470 to enter Terrace on LFR. Or be raiding with a guild.
* Then back to grinding (Perhaps while doing dailies)
* Do whatever next part is before getting the enchants.

I will give them the benefit of the doubt regarding BoA or not. But it is still a much bigger hassle than the old one:

* Pick faction(s), get friendly from questing/dailies
* Buy tabard and you'll get revered within decent amount of time by doing dungeons (That you might do for weekly VP anyway)
* Speed up the process by doing dailies.

I can't agree to this mop system being better.

if you think getting a 470 ilvl is a "hassle" then you have much bigger problems than a legendary questline...

**Buu** · 2012-12-23, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by huth

Because everything written in the preliminary PTR patchnotes is undeniable and unchangeable truth and the patch will be brougth to live exactly as written.

OK, then explain how we read too much from "HEADGEAR ENCHANTMENT". I dare you. No, only more speculation on how our thought processes are too slow, because a convoluted "maybe"? Still weak.

**saltyharbls** · 2012-12-23, 02:09 PM

Greg Street ‏@Ghostcrawler
Players are reading way too much into that patch note. It's not even a head enchant!

Lets hope we are reading too much into all of those braindead nerfs to locks and ferals ;D

**Osmeric** · 2012-12-23, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by RandomGamer

How is PVP fucked up by item upgrades?

It destroys the experience for people who only PvP casually. It used to be you could get your honor gear and have an ok time. Now, such people are even more outgeared.

The huge ilvl gap between honor and CP gear isn't helping either.

**huth** · 2012-12-23, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Buu

OK, then explain how we read too much from "HEADGEAR ENCHANTMENT". I dare you. No, only more speculation on how our thought processes are too slow, because a convoluted "maybe"? Still weak.

The patch notes are wrong. It's not a headgear enchant. Is that really so hard? Don't call me slow when you haven't even stood up yet.

**neanoa** · 2012-12-23, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Bladeface

if you think getting a 470 ilvl is a "hassle" then you have much bigger problems than a legendary questline...

If you are not even going to bother to read what I've been writing properly then you might aswell not reply. Go away.

**Aoyi** · 2012-12-23, 02:34 PM

This is not the same as a faction requirement. This is part of a legendary quest chain to reward players that take part. If you aren't raiding, you shouldn't be worried about getting this. This is just a part of the turning your character into a hero of your faction legendary chain. If you want to take part in the story, you get rewarded.

**Dragon9870** · 2012-12-23, 02:36 PM

https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/sta...09601508163585

Apparently Ghostcrawler says it's "not even a head enchant".

Totally saving this tweet for the future when it's a fucking head enchant.

**alemaite** · 2012-12-23, 02:37 PM

Pretty much all the no-lifers saying "oh my gawd its no hassle", yes but it goes against their logic. PvPers will probably have to get it too to be able to compete you can't just not get it or you will be behind that is the problem with stupid enchants like these, same with the stupid gear upgrade system. Many people play this game for arenas, it's so simple to just make it a PvE only thing but even then it still makes no sense at all to remove head enchants just to put it back in again. Also wth is so legendary about an enchant and don't tell me it will be unique looking - nothing unique about a legendary everyone and his mom has and an enchant everyone will have.

Can no one see this enchant will be as common as the retarded ones in cata just "legendary" and easier to get?

**zito** · 2012-12-23, 02:40 PM

It's still a legendary regardless if its a head enchant.

Legendarys have never been a requirement. Neither will this one legendary head enchant.

**gurv** · 2012-12-23, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by neanoa

Anyone else confused and just can't help shaking their head at the sillyness?

Not confused here.
There's nothing good to expect from Blizzard anymore.
Simple as that.

---------- Post added 2012-12-23 at 05:27 PM ----------

Originally Posted by zito

It's still a legendary regardless if its a head enchant.

Legendarys have never been a requirement. Neither will this one legendary head enchant.

Legendarys weren't a requirement because not everybody could get it.
This enchant on the other hand is available to everyone willing to do some grinding.
So it will be required.

**Drfireburns** · 2012-12-23, 04:42 PM

I'm so tired of people complaining because they don't do something, that they won't have access to it. You aren't entitled to anything...

Not everyone in Vanilla got their Legendary. Not everyone in BC got their Legendary. Not everyone in WotLK got their Legendary. Not everyone in Cata got their Legendary. Not everyone in MoP will get their Legendary.

So why is it because you don't feel like you should have to grind rep or even do LFR that you should still get a Legendary?

Durrrr. It's like PVP. I don't want to bust my ass and do arena, but because I want the best PVP gear available, should I be allowed to just have it because I want it? No, of course not. Just like if you don't raid or grind rep, you shouldn't be able to get your Legendary weapon or head enchant.

**Moradim** · 2012-12-23, 05:00 PM

if I grind 6k valor, and use a legendary gem (10k to replace) for an item that gets replaced in 5.2 im going to be pretty upset.

**LazarusLong** · 2012-12-23, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by gurv

Not confused here.
There's nothing good to expect from Blizzard anymore.
Simple as that.

---------- Post added 2012-12-23 at 05:27 PM ----------

Legendarys weren't a requirement because not everybody could get it.
This enchant on the other hand is available to everyone willing to do some grinding.
So it will be required.

I'm sorry, are Wrathion gems required now?
Do you have any single clue on how this crown mechanic will work? (If it's like gems than you can use it only on few available items for example).

**Osmeric** · 2012-12-23, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by Moradim

if I grind 6k valor, and use a legendary gem (10k to replace) for an item that gets replaced in 5.2 im going to be pretty upset.

The VP doesn't get consumed by completing the quest (how could it? You can't hold that much VP.)

**Kevyne-Shandris** · 2012-12-23, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by Hammerofpope

Durrrr. It's like PVP. I don't want to bust my ass and do arena, but because I want the best PVP gear available, should I be allowed to just have it because I want it? No, of course not.

But you can. Two methods: win on R/BGs, or what too many people do, get carried through arena to 2200 for the elite PvP gear.

It took to 5.1 for Blizzard to fix the MMR exploit, but they can't fix the carried for play or carried for pay schemes (unless they have way to prove players are performing at that level to begin with).

**Moradim** · 2012-12-23, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Osmeric

The VP doesn't get consumed by completing the quest (how could it? You can't hold that much VP.)

I know, but I mean all this "work" (i know, people would cap anyways, but sigil part was annoying), should end in a legendary weapon. I think it would be lame if current sha weapons became disenchanted after so much time was put into them.

if there are new weapons, the current weapon/gem should be able to empower it, or something. otherwise, id like to see the current sha weapons get progressively more powerful (via wrathion).

**Wildtree** · 2012-12-23, 06:18 PM

As some already pointed out... This is a legendary item.
Now I really like to ask this question: What the hell is wrong with you people?

For the first time ever, Blizzard puts something into the game that makes EVERYONE able to get something of legendary quality. Everyone. That was never the case before.
Way back, when 20 people had the legendary bow from Sunwell, then that was already a lot.
Now every single player can get something legendary, and people bitch about how to have to put at least some efforts into it, even if it's just some simple quests?
So far everything needed falls into place naturally. If you can't be bothered doing LFR, then you don't really need the legendary anyway, or reworded, you don't want it enough.
If I really want something, I go for it. I don't care what it takes to get there. I will get there.

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