Blanket silents are gone

[Hezo]

They add and add and add things. Sometimes they gotta remove them as well.

[velnis]

I won't argue juking simply because its been a long time since I've done arena at a high enough level. I also wasn't aware that all healers were given an aura mastery type spell. As I said the only one I knew was a disc priest. Either way...that doesn't change what I said earlier: doesnt matter what a healer does he will still be prevented from casting. If he jukes an interrupt he gets blanketed if he pops his respective "aura mastery" he gets chain stunned. Taking away most blankets will help ensure that at least one instinctive defensive move that does work in most areas of pvp has a chance of rewarding the person juking and not punish them for it.

Okay, so things have changed since my time in the upper tier of arena. From what you're saying it sounds like the stuns are out of control, not so much the blanket silence. Thing you have to remember is this: not everyone is a Venruki, a Vangurd or a Kollectiv when it comes to arena. You mention people who are at the VERY TOP of the game in their aspect. A very very very small percentage of people will ever be as good as they (and their teams) are. You can't judge every post based on that skill level nor should you cater to anyone lower either. You're trying to prove a point and I get that, problem is you are comparing the top .5% of players versus everyone else. That doesn't make sense.

Before you ask, I was 2400 in 5s (SL/SL lock, MS warr, frost Mage, Myself, Disc priest) and 2300 in 3s (MS warr, frost Mage, myself) a long time ago during season 2. While the game has changed a lot, you can spare me with the condescension.

I guess im not the only one that needs to 'do a little research', you know, since you are about 4k spellpower off of the mark with your little gearing comment. (In case you havnt figured it out yet, im geared in a little more then just blues.)

Mage warrior paladin in TBC. Yeahhh. Also, ratings were not nearly as inflated in season 2 as they were in wotlk, cata or even now for that matter. Even though ratings are lower now than they were in cata, it is still higher than TBC by quite a bit. 2400 is higher than most BGs were, most rank 1s weren't even 2400. 2100-2250 was rank 1 on nearly every BG.

Also since you're not ever a rank1 per your achievements, and pvp achievements are account wide now, i'll guess your old account disappeared or something. Apparently you were rank 1 merciless gladiator in season 2.

---------- Post added 2012-12-27 at 10:43 PM ----------

Lots of people arguing the same point.

- Blanket Silences are appropriate in an environment with lots of instant spells. They are not, where cast times are required for decent spells.

I play a Mage (amongst other classes). If removing Blanket silences are an indication of a move away from instant spells, then Im all for it. If not, then its going to be a disaster. Since Cata it has become implausible to contemplate casting a spell with a cast time without some kind of CC cover, be it blanket silence or otherwise. I hated that in Cata. Trying to get a spell of on or around an awake Shaman is/was an excercise in futility.

It is however odd that they were only removed from two classes, and not the remaining 3.

Pretty much sums it up. I can see an argument for removal in a TBC state of game. IN the current state of game where casters don't have to cast nearly as much (as they did in TBC), where melee has tons of uptime and cannot be peeled as easily, where melee has 2-3 cooldowns to get out of snares/roots without a dispel (or in a ferals case, where snares and roots do nothing), and nearly every healer has NS/aura mastery/etc etc etc it makes zero sense.

Retard melee droolcomps will love it though, since that and rogue comps will dominate in 5.2.

[Shaderas]

Mage warrior paladin in TBC. Yeahhh. Also, ratings were not nearly as inflated in season 2 as they were in wotlk, cata or even now for that matter. Even though ratings are lower now than they were in cata, it is still higher than TBC by quite a bit. 2400 is higher than most BGs were, most rank 1s weren't even 2400. 2100-2250 was rank 1 on nearly every BG.

Also since you're not ever a rank1 per your achievements, and pvp achievements are account wide now, i'll guess your old account disappeared or something. Apparently you were rank 1 merciless gladiator in season 2.

I don't want to get in this fight here, but didn't Arena come out before achievements came out? Think Arena was in BC and Achievements came out at end of BC/beginning of WotLK?

[Theholypally]

I don't want to get in this fight here, but didn't Arena come out before achievements came out? Think Arena was in BC and Achievements came out at end of BC/beginning of WotLK?

You're right, achievements came later (October 15, 2008 is when they first came out). If I remember correctly arena season 2 started June 19th of 2007 and ended in November of 2007. Before Oct 15 of 2008 there were no arena achievements. And they weren't retroactive...people had to start from scratch with the introduction of achievements.

[Funkthepunk]

Mage warrior paladin in TBC. Yeahhh. Also, ratings were not nearly as inflated in season 2 as they were in wotlk, cata or even now for that matter. Even though ratings are lower now than they were in cata, it is still higher than TBC by quite a bit. 2400 is higher than most BGs were, most rank 1s weren't even 2400. 2100-2250 was rank 1 on nearly every BG.

Also since you're not ever a rank1 per your achievements, and pvp achievements are account wide now, i'll guess your old account disappeared or something. Apparently you were rank 1 merciless gladiator in season 2.

Wow... 2100-2250 was rank 1 in Tbc... Are you kidding me?

I dont know what BG you played on, but this certainly wasnt true everywhere. I ended at duelist rating at 2100 rating in season 2 in 3s (2.1k in 2s and 2k in 5s as well), and got gladiator in season 3 (by a small margin) by having like 2250 rating in 3s, not far from duelist rating (and 2s rating was even higher inflated). The rank 1 team on my BG was at like 2500 in 3s (by the end of season 3). It was around the same in 2s, and quite a bit lower (around 2300-2400) in 5s.
And even then when the achievements were implemented (after the end of season 4), the achievement for gladiator back then clearly said "earn the title gladiator in level 80". Of course getting rank 1 titles would give you a feat of strength, but 2300 was far away from rank 1.

I don't know if your memory is poor, or if you just didnt play a lot of arena back in Tbc, but don't flame people like that because you seem to believe something entirely wrong.

In most active battlegroups during s2-4 2s cutoff was like 2200-2300, 3s cutoff 2150-2300 and 5s cutoff 2100-2200.

[Senathor]

Silencing Shot definitely needs a bigger nerf as well to make it fair.

No becuase it's still 3 seconds when used on cast.

[Mican17]

No becuase it's still 3 seconds when used on cast.

It's a 3 second blanket silence, while mages have a 4 second blanket silence and locks have a 3 sec blanket. Get rid of its silence and increase its interrupt timer by a couple or few seconds to make it balanced and fair.

[Shaderas]

It's a 3 second blanket silence, while mages have a 4 second blanket silence and locks have a 3 sec blanket. Get rid of its silence and increase its interrupt timer by a couple or few seconds to make it balanced and fair.

No. If you remove the silence, make it an interrupt only and lower its cooldown to be in line with Kick, a rogue ability, that Hunters are more similar to than those caster classes. If you keep the silence (which I don't think they should) increase the cooldown, so it's useable a lot less frequently.

[stickyjam]

People dnt cast as much, the only thing OP about the mages and locks silences were the cds... double the cd and they're fine.

[Bazookaberit]

To take blankets is the right way to go if healers/casters actually need to cast. When I play my paladin, I might cast 5-6 spells every arena which is not instant as holy. Let casters start to cast and remove blankets.

[Gangresnake]

People dnt cast as much, the only thing OP about the mages and locks silences were the cds... double the cd and they're fine.

A 50s CD for a 6sec interrupt ? Are you high ? The only thing wrong with mage and lock interrupt was mage -4sec CD set bonus

[Syh]

A 50s CD for a 6sec interrupt ? Are you high ? The only thing wrong with mage and lock interrupt was mage -4sec CD set bonus

sPriest's blanket silence is a 45s CD. It seems to be fine, apparently.

Anyway, what StickyJam is saying is that they should keep the blanket and up the CD. He's saying that the short time is the OP bit of it, not the blanket silence itself.

[haxiwage]

Going to make my life as a holy paladin alot easier atleast