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  1. #21
    What's bothering me is he's using some vague notion of "ownership" as excuses. He should just say "these are lands, we want them, we have a bigger army, fuck you". Not nice but that's how it goes since early mankind and that's really the only valid argument in that kind of conflict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Authary View Post
    What's bothering me is he's using some vague notion of "ownership" as excuses. He should just say "these are lands, we want them, we have a bigger army, fuck you". Not nice but that's how it goes since early mankind and that's really the only valid argument in that kind of conflict.
    That would be too illegal under international law.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    That would be too illegal under international law.
    That may be, but who would come in to stop him/them?

    -Grim

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    That would be too illegal under international law.
    Meh, laws exist only when there's someone to enforce them. As long as they're not angering anyone too powerful...

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Grim32 View Post
    That may be, but who would come in to stop him/them?
    Their own people. Ordinary non-extremist Israelis are fed up enough of the fanatics as it is, a naked/criminal land grab without a cover story to sell to the population might just be enough to galvanise them into ending the rule of the minority hard-line parties.

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    Oh look, and people still claim that Israel's leadership isn't formed of terrorists too. Well there, it is. This is the problem with the conflict there, on one side you have a terrorist leadership, on the other you have a terrorist organization supporting the leadership. So whatever you chose it's wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalyyn View Post
    Can't say I blame him. Who wouldn't do this in his position? It's what his people want, and he has no reason not to give it to them. Sure, most of the world will whine and complain about it. But aside from being annoying, it has no effect on Israel. At the end of the day, nobody is willing to step in and do something about it. Israel has nothing to lose here.
    It's what his people want? Many romanians want northern Bukovina back from Ukraine, would it be ok if Romania would go and start building romanian towns there and push the ukranians out by army force? It's what the romanians would want, right?

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    Well, maybe the UN will step in and put Syria and everyone else right:


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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    America won't, so I doubt anything's going to happen. I wish though.
    Funny enough, if the US would be smart, they'd fake trying to make Israel more civil so that Russia lets them get into Syria. By helping the Syrian people, they'd start to be liked in the eyes of the arab people. By taking Russia's point on Israel, they'd also get bonus points with Russia. They could then make the Israelis accept the 1967 borders by giving them a small part of Syria instead. And making Jerusalem a UN site would mean the UN would now need to defend it as it would be their home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitepepper View Post
    Looks like alot of quotes taken out of context from Netanyahu and Russia Today doesn't have the best track record when it comes to reporting facts. I would reserve judgement until seeing the actual interview with Netanyahu.

    http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/n...tin-washington
    Ironically, the link you posted is said to be 'America's world news site,' which makes it exactly as believable as Russia Today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalyyn View Post
    Can't say I blame him. Who wouldn't do this in his position? It's what his people want, and he has no reason not to give it to them. Sure, most of the world will whine and complain about it. But aside from being annoying, it has no effect on Israel. At the end of the day, nobody is willing to step in and do something about it. Israel has nothing to lose here.
    I wouldn't? Are his people, the Israeli citizens, this dumb and selfish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creamy Flames View Post
    Ah, you again with your weekly Israel-bashing thread.
    Ignores crimes against humanity, and genocide against the Palestinians that the Jews do on a regular basis. Complain instead about someone posting information about it.

    YIKES

  12. #32
    Religion is forbidden but religious wars arent? So were allowed to talk about what happens but get bant if we discuss motivation? Doesnt seem productive imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luftmangle View Post
    Ignores crimes against humanity, and genocide against the Palestinians that the Israelis do on a regular basis. Complain instead about someone posting information about it.

    YIKES
    should really reword it as Israelis rather than blame a whole religious group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnorei View Post
    Funny enough, if the US would be smart, they'd fake trying to make Israel more civil so that Russia lets them get into Syria. By helping the Syrian people, they'd start to be liked in the eyes of the arab people. By taking Russia's point on Israel, they'd also get bonus points with Russia. They could then make the Israelis accept the 1967 borders by giving them a small part of Syria instead. And making Jerusalem a UN site would mean the UN would now need to defend it as it would be their home.
    the American people dont want to be involved in Syria so that wont happen
    You're a fine example of how gamer communities have become infested with endlessly whining and bitching, arrogant, opinionated, unreasonable, all the way immature, completely delusional, tendentially psychotic, insulting individuals one really doesn't want to be linked with. And playing with you guys is certainly no fun at all. I don't know where this kind of folks spawns from. Must be a nest somewhere ...
    A fine summarization of the community

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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    Funny how that's your reaction to a reasonably impartial news article of what the Israeli PM said.
    You know when it is Iran their response is usually that they're religious nuts and what not but when it is Israel all of the sudden it is Israel-bashing thread. Talk about double standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N-7 View Post
    You know when it is Iran their response is usually that they're religious nuts and what not but when it is Israel all of the sudden it is Israel-bashing thread. Talk about double standards.
    thats my real issue with it all. Iraq was in breach of 2 UN resolutions and had no WMDs. 1.5 million dead iraqis later, a country broken up and corruption rampant. israel in breach of around 166 UN resolutions. has admitted possessing nuclear and other WMDs. regularly attacks its neighbours while playing the victim card. nothings done. in fact the west arm and support israel while abusing the UN veto card.

  17. #37
    Why all the hate on Israel??? they are just about the ONLY nation in the middle east that isn't burning European/American flags and wanting "death to the west".

    Also why in the hell would anyone except radical muslims want palestine to have an independent state???? The last thing we need is another government helping terrorists.
    Last edited by Zallex; 2012-12-23 at 10:51 PM.

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    The United Nations should step in, with armed forces and prevent this from happening. Both sides have been committing crimes for decades now, and it has to stop. The borders that have been drawn, should be recognised by both states, and forced into peace with international military force if needed.

    I'm sick of this silly conflict. Both sides should accept faults, and make serious amends towards the situation, or face being wiped off the face of this planet by international forces, who've grown tired and bored with this petty situation.

    They've had long enough to resolve the issues themselves, and it isn't working. Time to get tough, and get mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnorei View Post
    Funny enough, if the US would be smart, they'd fake trying to make Israel more civil so that Russia lets them get into Syria. By helping the Syrian people, they'd start to be liked in the eyes of the arab people. By taking Russia's point on Israel, they'd also get bonus points with Russia. They could then make the Israelis accept the 1967 borders by giving them a small part of Syria instead. And making Jerusalem a UN site would mean the UN would now need to defend it as it would be their home.
    Because "helping" Iraq made them so popular with the Arabs, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulcrusher View Post
    thats my real issue with it all. Iraq was in breach of 2 UN resolutions and had no WMDs. 1.5 million dead iraqis later, a country broken up and corruption rampant. israel in breach of around 166 UN resolutions. has admitted possessing nuclear and other WMDs. regularly attacks its neighbours while playing the victim card. nothings done. in fact the west arm and support israel while abusing the UN veto card.
    Welcome to the power of major jewish businesses and WW2 guilt tripping.

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