So yeah rugby is more dangerous ...
and just to note.... I doubt any of the things that are listed as fouls are allowed and legal in american football (please correct me if I'm wrong) but just because the not allow does not mean they don't happen, they happen all the time ... and ppl get penalized for it. They would not be rules if people never did them
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"Except for the things that don't hurt anybody, what exactly is illegal that I think shouldn't be?" Well, there are a lot of other things that are 'illegal' in America that shouldn't be, and the majority would actually agree with me if they cared enough to find out. Most of them don't have anything directly to do with morality, but have a lot to do with vast corruption and money. This is a pretty good report on what I'm talking about - John Stossel's Illegal Everything
It's true that most governments in this day in age do enforce this morality or that, but that doesn't mean it's required, or that every government does it. Obviously when I say 'morality' I'm only referring to things that people can do that DO NOT hurt anyone else - peoples' personal choices that the 'majority' may not agree with.
Ban everything forever. That way we can brainwash everyone with chess tournaments. Only then can we realize our goal making Catholic bishops move diagonally. With this, we can rule the world.
If we are going to start talking about safety in terms of sports, boxing would be a much better thing to ban than American football. A game made so that you win by punching the opponent's head to make him/her unconscious is a much more dangerous activity than a game which requires you to wear relatively heavy equipment to protect your body from injury while trying to achieve tactical goals to win.
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Erm, I'm not for BANNING it, but I'm for informing people that it can be dangerous; also, alot of your "pro's" are just silly. You don't need to play football to feel patriotic, and certainly not to learn about culture. Also, I don't believe people should receive scholarships to pursue health-damaging activity.
Who the hell voted for option #1? You'd have to be a pretty fat f*ck to want to ban all sports and athletics, especially as being physically active is one of the few things which high schoolers do correctly...
As someone who only considers Football a poor fill-in during the Baseball off season, they could ban it and it wouldn't bother me. Look at all the ex players who are semi-invalids from playing it with knee, hip, and other debilitating injuries, not to mention the concussion after effects. It's really a silly sport anyway, flawed by the same thing that makes other things games and not real sports, the time clock. It infuriates me to see athletes in any "sport" running out the clock by kneeling, running around the court, skating around in the back court, etc. Both teams should be guaranteed the same amount of possessions and opportunities to score regardless of the time factor. It's also stupid to have to give up being on offense after you are successful. To me, if a team scores a touchdown, they get to stay on offense. Anything short of that (including field goals), the other team gets the ball. They still get the same amount of initial possessions however. That way, it could be like Baseball where ,"It ain't over 'til it's over", and be far more exciting and interesting.
Kinda a ridiculous concept. Yes concussions happen in football. Yes it is a part of the game.
However to see it in context lets avoid rugby (too easy) and compare it to Boxing. The GOAL of a boxing match is to concuss your opponent so severely that he cannot stand up after being knocked down for 10 seconds. A concussion in football is an incidental part of the flow of the game. A concussion in boxing is the desired result. It is hard to advocate for a ban on football when we allow other gladitorial bloodsports to continue. Also the consequences of a career in boxing are FAR more pronounced than one in football. Too many old boxers with poor memories and the permanent shakes.
That said I am all for the NFL finally mandating concussion resistant helmet technology and mouthpiece technology. These are things that ALREADY exist and can reduce the incidences of concussions on the field. No clue why they won't make them a requirement. Seriously I got nothing. Why NFL?
Sports provide carriers, exercise and it's sole purpose is not to harm other living things.
People abuse sport? How?
Are you for not intervening with someone committing suicide? Even if it was someone you cared about? Since it seems you only want laws against hurting others.
What you label morality isn't necessarily that, needless to say that will vary on a case by case. I don't use drugs, never have and never will, drug use harms society as a whole by making people less productive and yet I'm for it. Prostitution is something I myself have never used and likely, unless my fiancee leaves me and I get ugly with age, never will use and yet I'm for it, I even think it will be good for society.
You seem to have very black and white case of what harming others is. There is many ways to harm people, directly and indirectly. Morality is also something that is at the core of us human beings, without it we are animals, with nice tools, means of communicating but still. Murder is immoral, so say the majority of our society and yet there are cases where we deem the taking of another life just.
Why should we not harm others if it benefits us? If you take morality out of the picture?
Were in the world is American football less dangerous then Ruby?
Bad - This is a bad player, he refuses to learn how to play correctly.
Casual - This is a player that will let everything else take priority over wow.
Hardcore - This is a player that is fine with putting things on hold while he's on wow.
Bad/Good - Measure of Skill.
Casual/Hardcore - Measure of Time
This thread is nothing but an attempt to paint Liberals as America-hating social radicals. I'm a social Liberal and I've never called for the banning of anything, nor have I heard any calls from the dreaded left to ban football.
I voted to ban football, as in 'soccer' as you folk call it. It's a pointless game full of overpaid primadonnas.
Ahh this reminds me of EU.. they want to ban something that's dangerous but they allow stuffs that is even more dangerous!
(For those of you that wants to know what EU wants to ban is it the swedish snus, but they dont want to ban ciggarettes)