The usual trend at work on MMO-C...
-Thread gets created trolling conservatives using extremist examples, everyone eats it up.
-Thread gets created trolling liberals using extremist examples, everyone gets really offended.
Either way, football has nothing to do with politics, nor should it, and there is no reason to ban it. Cheerleaders get injured frequently too.
It's a sad state for a democracy to be in when two parties control the entire system and they are both authoritarian.
Only people trying to get shit banned are conservatives. Unless you consider banning discrimination, then you can blame the liberals.
When I talk about enforcing morality, I'm not talking about murder, rape, or theft. Those are universal 'laws', all human beings know they're wrong. We don't need religion or politicians to tell us they're wrong. They've been illegal since human beings have been around. They also have VICTIMS.
When people talk about drug use or prostitution being immoral, it's a bit different. How different is that REALLY from someone else who considers using technology to be "immoral", sinful? (Amish) How about people who believe it's a sin against God to eat pork? Is it OK to execute people for having different beliefs than you? Throw them in jail, fine them, ruin their lives, victimize them?
The problem when you start enforcing morality is that almost everybody in the world has (usually slightly) different ideas on morality. What do you enforce, then? The morality of the MAJORITY? Then this only leads to the OPPRESSION of anyone who ISN'T the 'majority'. Hell, the way things work today, most of the time the laws DON'T even reflect the opinion of the majority - but only those IN CONTROL. That's the definition of tyranny. We may not see it as tyranny until police start breaking into your homes and hauling you off to jail, but the signs are there.
A lot of people DO think the government should "take care of people" or not let them do things that "hurt themselves." I think it's ridiculous in the worst way. Banning sports is an example, but so is banning drugs, guns, prostitution, and more. We're fast approaching a society where everything is illegal, (Illegal Everything) where every citizen is a criminal and selective enforcement is the phrase of the day. Don't get noticed, don't step out of line, and don't be unlucky - you'll be fine.
Last edited by Daerio; 2012-12-25 at 10:52 PM.
Screw it, I will argue. You can't pull the 'you're lying if you say blah blah' nonsense. I can go out of my way and say I have played both (I have, rugby at regional level, AF at a club/county level) and I can say that putting that padding on makes you feel bloody invincible. And you know what? It does.
You can run into the ball carrier with gay abandon and not worry about a single scratch, and therein lies the problem inherent in AF. The defenders feel they can do whatever the hell they like to the carrier. Take the pads off an American Footballer and I think you'd have a rough approximation of what an actual footballer plays their game like, cowering around the ball, afraid to touch it, falling over at the slightest gust of wind and feigning injury so long as they can take home their paycheque.
BUT I DIGRESS! Rugby hurts a shitload more than American Football, fact.
I assume "We should ban all sports and athletics." was only voted on by people trolling or I at least hope it was
I'll ask you again, if you don't use morality as a argument at all why is rape and murder illegal? Because they have victims? First off, arguably things like use of prostitutes and drugs have victims as well. Secondly why does it matter if there are victims or not if you don't want morality to enter the picture?
Our laws are based on practicality and morality. They are made with the goal in mind to keep a large group of people together while keeping as many of them as possible happy and let them live their life. If we discard morality what reason would I have for not killing you if it suited me?
Football should be banned worldwide, the riots caused when teams lose have been known to cost lives of spectators. Until these crazy football hooligans can figure out how to deal with loses like adults we need to remove football from the world entirely... Wait are you talking about football or American football?
I've never heard of any one wanting to ban football. What madness is this!!!
Ya, despite my economic, political, and human rights views, I have never expressed a desire to see sports banned. Reducing the funding towards certain sports in some school districts and rerouting said funds to more academic endeavors maybe, but not outright banning. You couldn't get more ridiculously contrived as this strawman OP.
hahaha, good luck banning such a money maker.