My brother reduced his tenant's rent and made her sleep with him as compensation.

[Angrybathtub]

Damn your brother is fucked in the head.

[pateuvasiliu]

What is up with the random gay insults for no reason?

Well excuse me. I don't know any straight guy that uses '':x '' and didn't expect you people to get butthurt.

[Karlz0rz]

He never said anything about him kicking her out, ONLY that he would make the rent lower. She was in her full right to decline this, but she didn't. I see nothing wrong here.
But I guess people will have different opinions on this!

[jmmathe1988]

This is sick, your brother is almost like a predator...sounds to me like he nagged her until she caved, and because of her situation he knew she would...if I knew the poor girl id let her stay here for FREE... that's fucked up, what a pathetic excuse of a human being.

[v2prwsmb45yhuq3wj23vpjk]

The word rapist is thrown around so much these days it becomes entirely meaningless. Consentual sex for money is rape now? What? How about that woman gets some dignity and starts figuring out ways to earn money without using her body?

Or do you think that guy should slash her rent in half or more for no reason other than a sob story? Get real.

I didn't realize having sex with somebody because they are leaving you no real alternative mean it was consensual.

Also, the word 'borderline' isn't in there for no reason.

Look at the other threads he's started dude.

It's clear he is just preying on others' moral reprehensity.

The OP or the guy I responded to? The OP's validity doesn't really matter at all because none of us are in the situation anyway. It was a hypothetical thing for us regardless.

Creep, nowhere near rapist. A very creepy offer, not exactly a rapist.

A creepy offer is something like "I know you're having financial troubles and I'll pay you to have sex with me."
A borderline rapist 'offer' is "I'll cut your rent by about half and you have to have sex with me once a week."

No matter how you phrase the second one, his position of power over her and her situation makes it very coercive. He puts a fear of being homeless in her.

[Puck]

Tell your Brother he is an immoral jack ass.

Disgusting, taking advantage of desperate people like that.

[Ashnazg]

I didn't realize having sex with somebody because they are leaving you no real alternative mean it was consensual.

Also, the word 'borderline' isn't in there for no reason.

I would agree with you if she was left with no real alternative. However, that is not the case. He is not disrupting her status quo - she can keep paying the full rent, or she can take the easy option.

He had nothing to do with her situation, he is a third party, and the change in her monetary situation is in no way his concern or problem. So when it comes down to consensual vs non-consensual debate, there can be no doubt that it is entirely consensual - after all, he is not forcing her out, he is simply offering her more options.

[caractacus]

I am glad i'm not the only one who thinks this is absolute garbage. The local social services would not leave a minor in the care of another sibling who has no stable accommodation or income.

[stalkerzzzz]

I didn't realize having sex with somebody because they are leaving you no real alternative mean it was consensual.

I would call paying normal rent or finding a different place to stay real alternatives.

[Ilgalar]

lynch mob!!!

[v2prwsmb45yhuq3wj23vpjk]

I would agree with you if she was left with no real alternative. However, that is not the case. He is not disrupting her status quo - she can keep paying the full rent, or she can take the easy option.

He had nothing to do with her situation, he is a third party, and the change in her monetary situation is in no way his concern or problem. So when it comes down to consensual vs non-consensual debate, there can be no doubt that it is entirely consensual - after all, he is not forcing her out, he is simply offering her more options.

You ignore the position of power he has over her. The kind of offer he makes just oozes with "I'll evict you otherwise".

I would call paying normal rent or finding a different place to stay real alternatives.

If he was genuine about it being purely monetary, the first one could be a real alternative. As for the second one, do you know how hard it can be to find a place to live?

[Sparkalark]

awesome. High fives all around.

[Choptimus]

She could find somewhere else if she didn't want to have sex with him.

I'd have sex with somebody I don't find attractive for 60% off my rent in a heartbeat.

[Ghul]

well, i would have simply moved out, if i had been in her shoes..

i'd never sell myself to anybody... women in general seem to have less problems with that, at least when im konsidering the general news sites and the porn-industry. theres millions of women who let men have their way with them for money, but men not even nearly as much :>

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You ignore the position of power he has over her. The kind of offer he makes just oozes with "I'll evict you otherwise".

you're just maiking up things of thin air now, just to strenghten your point... his "otherwise" is obviously that she has to pay full rent.. duh!

[v2prwsmb45yhuq3wj23vpjk]

well, i would have simply moved out, if i had been in her shoes..

i'd never sell myself to anybody... women in general seem to have less problems with that, at least when im konsidering the general news sites and the porn-industry. theres millions of women who let men have their way with them for money, but men not even nearly as much :>

You're confusing a higher demand resulting in a higher supply with a higher general willingness to participate in such things. I guarantee you that there are loads of guys who would do porn if they could.

you're just maiking up things of thin air now, just to strenghten your point... his "otherwise" is obviously that she has to pay full rent.. duh!

The implication he makes when presenting such an offer is very bad. I don't think you're seeing this from her point of view at all.

[Ashnazg]

You ignore the position of power he has over her. The kind of offer he makes just oozes with "I'll evict you otherwise".


If he was genuine about it being purely monetary, the first one could be a real alternative. As for the second one, do you know how hard it can be to find a place to live?

But we have no evidence of the threat of eviction from the hypothetical given. So there is no reason to jump to assumptions.

[v2prwsmb45yhuq3wj23vpjk]

But we have no evidence of the threat of evicting from the hypothetical given. So there is no reason to jump to assumptions.

The offer implies it. You don't need to directly threaten somebody to threaten them.

[Ragedaug]

Isn't this the case for 99% of prostitutes everywhere?

Women don't get into prostitution because they love the idea of having random sex with disgusting men who otherwise couldn't convince a woman to sleep with them. Every man who visits a corner prostitute even where it's legal, has the same moral ramifications as the "brother" in this story. They are paying a women to have sex with them, because she feels she has no other choice.

I'm not trying to excuse the brother, though neither is the 18 year old blameless in this as she agreed to it, when the obvious answer to the arrangement would be "no". Anyway, while the brother is a lowlife scum, he's no different then every other man who has visited a prostitute. There's a bigger picture problem here that everyone is glossing over while addressing this specific situation.

[Ashnazg]

The offer implies it. You don't need to directly threaten somebody to threaten them.

No it doesn't. You're leaping to assumptions, which is bad enough in real life situations, and even worse in hypothetical.

Its quite straightforward: "Pay full rent, or pay reduced rent + sex". There is 0 evidence of a threat of eviction.

[Wells]

No it doesn't. You're leaping to assumptions, which is bad enough in real life situations, and even worse in hypothetical.

Its quite straightforward: "Pay full rent, or pay reduced rent + sex". There is 0 evidence of a threat of eviction.

You have to be naive to think this. I mean seriously.