1. #1101
    Quote Originally Posted by Flickyz View Post
    Yeah..."your brother"....
    This is the best reply ever!

  2. #1102
    So why didn't she take advantage of those programs? Again, maybe this arrangement is the best she has.
    Ignorance of social systems available to those in need is actually a pretty serious problem in the US.

  3. #1103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bergtau View Post
    Do you really not see the difference between this situation and that of a prostitute?
    Not really. Both the prostitute and the girl has the option to do other work to pay for their living, but they both chose to sell their body because they considered it to be their best option.

    The only way this would be different would be if choosing to pay rent in full or renting someplace else would lead to a very negative reaction from the landlord. For example if he threatened to kick her out anyway.

    For example in the workplace, if the boss says to a subordinate that he'll increase her pay by $1000 if she has sex with him, the coercion isn't automatically there. It's only the threat of retaliation when you refuse that makes it coercion (getting fired or not promoted for bullshit reasons). The landlord doesn't seem to be having any scheme like this going.

  4. #1104
    Quote Originally Posted by Diurdi View Post
    So why didn't she take advantage of those programs? Again, maybe this arrangement is the best she has.

    How is this really any different from the story of any other prostitute? Should prostitution get banned too and everyone who is doing it because they need to feed themselves should go on a government program? How about banning all work that isn't comfortable and putting everyone on welfare? I mean, they're being coersed into doing it or they won't be able to pay their rent and buy food.

    She didn't take advantage of these situations because its hypothetical. I'll bite though. Not everyone knows of all the agencies that help. Hell I do social work in an inner city and I don't even know of all of the little programs that are run by the several dozen churches in the area or different funded NPOs -OR- its that time of the year when the funding is tapped and they have helped all they could until the next fiscal year and all they can say is "sorry".

    I can say that I have seen situations like this from slumlords in the bad areas of town where people can't do better. Its coercion at its worst.
    Real people like this get shut down and hard when they go above radar - the problem is there is so many people who are users of people and it takes time to get them all.

  5. #1105
    Quote Originally Posted by Diurdi View Post
    Not really. Both the prostitute and the girl has the option to do other work to pay for their living, but they both chose to sell their body because they considered it to be their best option.

    The only way this would be different would be if choosing to pay rent in full or renting someplace else would lead to a very negative reaction from the landlord. For example if he threatened to kick her out anyway.

    For example in the workplace, if the boss says to a subordinate that he'll increase her pay by $1000 if she has sex with him, the coercion isn't automatically there. It's only the threat of retaliation when you refuse that makes it coercion (getting fired or not promoted for bullshit reasons). The landlord doesn't seem to be having any scheme like this going.
    The difference is who is doing to soliciting.

    And in situations where you're dealing with someone, a boss, a landlord, who has arbitrary power over you the threat of retaliation is implied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omgodzilla View Post
    So my brother recently developed his basement and rented it out to a girl and her younger brother. She's 18 years old and her brother is only 11. Their parents died last year because of a drunk driver. The girl is very friendly, intelligent and attractive. Her brother is a good kid as well. Both of them were raised very well. She just graduated from high school and was planning on going to university. She was actually accepted into McGill University right before her parents died. She decided to put that aside and just work for now because of financial reasons. She's currently supporting both herself and her younger brother (he's in grade 6 right now).

    So my brother is 29 and works as a chemical engineer. His own financial situation is great and so he decided to reduce the girl's rent if she were to do some "favours" for him. He agreed to reduce her rent by 60% if she slept with him once a week. I wasn't there when he asked her this but from what my brother told me, she was very reluctant. She's a very sweet young girl who doesn't approach sex casually. Eventually she agreed to doing this because of her financial difficulties.

    My brother just told me this yesterday. He says its been going on for the last month and he doesn't plan on stopping. He apparently enjoys his time with her but I don't think that feeling is reciprocated. I noticed that recently, she has been feeling very uncomfortable around my brother. Whenever they are in the same room, she doesn't look at him and appears very nervous and awkward.

    I can't help but feel bad for her. As I said, she's a very nice young girl and has gone through alot in the past year. Having to stay strong for her brother after her parents died must have been really difficult. Having to sleep with my brother who isn't exactly an attractive guy (He's almost 300 pounds and hasn't had a girlfriend in his life) must take alot of strength as well. My brother thinks that he's doing her a favour by taking her rent down so much. I don't really know what to feel about this. Should I just back off and let them continue on with this?
    are you a complete retard or something what your scumbag brother is doing is practically no better then looking someone in a basement and raping. if i had brother and i found out he did this i would beat the living shit out of him. If you were a decent guy you would have made it clear for your brother that this exploit ends now and if he thinks about throwing them out or touch that girl ever again you would make hes life a living fucking hell infact if you live in sweden i want his adress so i can go bash some sense into your scum of a brother.

    Infracted: Please keep your posts civil.
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  7. #1107
    I can't see this thread staying productive much longer. Too many strong, vocal (and all mostly valid) opinions in the same thread, and its escalating.

  8. #1108
    Quote Originally Posted by Luftmangle View Post
    She isn't a young girl. She is an adult. She is not being exploited. She has a choice. She doesn't have to look after her younger brother either. He can go into foster care run by Liberal Big Government. She chooses to live where she lives, she chooses to financially support her younger brother, and she chooses to exchange sex for lower rent.
    Yes and when you learn to live in the real world I'm sure you will have this approach. Let me guess, 21 male? 18 is young. Adult by law not choice. She also has a choice to live on the streets and not provide for her sibling. Ever heard of the lesser of 2 evils? She chooses to support her 11 year old brother? Yeah maybe she should force him into prostitution to pay the internet bill.

    She *chose* sex over lower rent yes but maybe only in order to put her self or sibling through college. I assume this is ok to the likes of you? I won't debate this as 99% of the human race will agree with me It's wrong. If you want to argue otherwise then you are no better than the guy doing it.

  9. #1109
    Quote Originally Posted by katji View Post
    I find this outrageous and wrong. Your brother should have reduce the rent and let it be - without favors.
    Just because she have a hole between her legs or what? Why he "should" do anything for her?

  10. #1110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    The difference is who is doing to soliciting.

    And in situations where you're dealing with someone, a boss, a landlord, who has arbitrary power over you the threat of retaliation is implied.
    Bullshit,the landlord didn't threaten to kick her out,she made her own choice.End of the story.

    Or by this logic are all bums ''coerced'' into robbing grocery stores because they're hungry and living in a hard situation while the grocery stores are flashing their goods?
    Are those grocery stores pure evil because they expect bums to pay money for the goods they buy?

    Same story,being poor doesn't cleanse you of individual responsibility...being poor is no excuse to point fingers at other people for your own decisions.

  11. #1111
    Quote Originally Posted by warpath2k View Post
    Yes and when you learn to live in the real world I'm sure you will have this approach. Let me guess, 21 male? 18 is young. Adult by law not choice. She also has a choice to live on the streets and not provide for her sibling. Ever heard of the lesser of 2 evils? She chooses to support her 11 year old brother? Yeah maybe she should force him into prostitution to pay the internet bill.

    She *chose* sex over lower rent yes but maybe only in order to put her self or sibling through college. I assume this is ok to the likes of you? I won't debate this as 99% of the human race will agree with me It's wrong. If you want to argue otherwise then you are no better than the guy doing it.
    I am actually a bit older than that. College educated, which I paid for myself. I also didn't go right into College after high school. I had to work, save, and go to school while I worked.

    I understand the real world

    It has been said plenty of times, she doesn't have to live with this guy or with this situation. An option was given to her and she chose to accept it. Whatever reason she did is hers and hers alone. She could have said no, and continued to pay the same amount or rent she was paying before. She could have moved to a cheaper place. She could have delayed going to school if she couldn't afford to do both. She could have chosen to not be financially responsible for her younger brother. Everything about this situation is choice. If she doesn't want to have sex with this guy for reduced rent, she can stop.

    Deal with it.

  12. #1112
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    Quote Originally Posted by warpath2k View Post
    Yes and when you learn to live in the real world I'm sure you will have this approach. Let me guess, 21 male? 18 is young. Adult by law not choice. She also has a choice to live on the streets and not provide for her sibling. Ever heard of the lesser of 2 evils? She chooses to support her 11 year old brother? Yeah maybe she should force him into prostitution to pay the internet bill.

    She *chose* sex over lower rent yes but maybe only in order to put her self or sibling through college. I assume this is ok to the likes of you? I won't debate this as 99% of the human race will agree with me It's wrong. If you want to argue otherwise then you are no better than the guy doing it.
    There's nothing morally wrong about it...as long as she isn't threatened of eviction if she refuses.
    His offer doesn't change ANYTHING about her current situation,she could have ignored it and lived on normally.
    Yet she chose to accept the offer,the one making an action here is her.If anything ,the deal is obviously helping her.

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    I have a feeling now that the OP is just making it up, it's almost like a very sad movie... Her parents dead, she takes care of her younger brother, struggles financially, sleeps with disgusting guy to make a living... If this is real, do something about it OP....

  14. #1114
    Didn't read every thread only a couple pages ... but a couple things...

    a) Prostitution is legal in canada, solicitation is not, so she can sell herself for a rent reduction and he's in the clear.
    b) She could pay the full rent, he made an offer, she accepted that offer... she could of said no.
    c) Canada is very socialist, if she's taking care of a minor there is all kinds of things she could apply for to get help paying.
    d) he's still scum for even making the offer in the first place instead of maybe... being compassionate and just helping her out.

  15. #1115
    Quote Originally Posted by Toffie View Post
    I have a feeling now that the OP is just making it up, it's almost like a very sad movie... Her parents dead, she takes care of her younger brother, struggles financially, sleeps with disgusting guy to make a living... If this is real, do something about it OP....
    How is he disgusting?

  16. #1116
    Apparently if a guy wants to have sex he is considered disgusting

  17. #1117
    Quote Originally Posted by Luftmangle View Post
    How is he disgusting?
    I don't think there's any point in telling you, from what I can tell, you're basically living the meaning of it with no signs of self loath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedlance View Post
    I see a lot people here speak of the poor young girl, but in my country 18 year old girls are already fading because of all the sex they've had. I don't think this morally right, but he gave her a choice to live easier, not like he was going to kick her out if she said no, he only offered a deal and she accepted.
    I'm 28 now but if I was 18 and a 30-35 year old woman would want to have sex with me for cheaper rent, I'd do it, once a week? np I was wanking 3 times a day anyway back then.
    You'd bang a 300pounds fugly woman ? Cause if you read the post...His brother is a fat / ugly moron

  19. #1119
    It's legal in Canada. I know this because this is the internet. OP's story is completely true, also.
    Chicken fried rice is delicious!

  20. #1120
    Well if the guy's never had a girlfriend I guess I can see why he's taking advantage of the situation... I am NOT saying that this is in any way acceptable, but I wouldn't go out and say that this guy is a horrible human being. I'm sure he knows what he's doing is wrong, he's probably just desperate and doesn't care after so long.

    With that being said, it's still not right. Especially when the girl is trying to care for her sibling, if he's not having financial problems he should just flat-out let her stay with them (since they have room) - There shouldn't be a fee tbh, she lost her parents and believe me, at that age, it's not a nice experience; Especially if you lose both of them at once. Just talk to him, he's had his 'fun' now tell him to be a man and stop with the shit.

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