The difference there is that if GoSac automatically reduced the cast time, it'd have a knock on effect in PvE areas, and if Chaos Bolt damage remains as it is, but at lower cast speed (think GoSac reduction PLUS Backdraft) I couldn't see it staying long.
I know it's easier to say than to do, but I'd rather the spec depended on CB not as it's largest weapon 24/7, and to give it's sustained damage a bit of a boost. I dunno, I am insane.
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*Which is leaving aside the painfully obvious fact that any spec with DoTs more powerful than, and not dependant on, it's nukes are most certainly going to ace every single non-single target encounter, every movement encounter, every encounter where the boss goes into phasing but DoTs still tick (not sure if there was one, covering my bases) and every encounter where the player must stop spellcasting themselves but allow their DoTs to tick (a la that dragon boss before the ship in Demon Soul).
Last edited by Queen Ultima; 2012-12-28 at 01:29 AM.
As far as spoon feeding goes, Queen Ultima did it better . Perhaps you could spoon feed how you'd make it work and not be incredibly imbalanced, while making fillers relevant?
So, assuming you're talking about Affliction? Well, I honestly think that Malefic Grasp, aside from having a cool name and looking awesome, is competant in it's function. It adds to DoTs, without taking away (as in it adds a tick without speeding it up and causing you to have to refresh more). Looking at random WoL Warlock logs (damn the research I'm doing), and going purely from assumptions from spell percentages, WoL logs, WoWHead, known mechanics and general feel (feel as in gut instinct), I'm not too sure what the problem with the Affli rotation is. Ideally, a "good" DoT feel, imho, is "put up DoTs, use filler, and proc-spell, with ability to burst down with cooldowns when needed". Maybe that's Affli's true problem, it can't burst that well. Assuming Doomguard is kept for <20% HP, using Grim of Sac (not sure what it'll be after 5.2), the only real tool is DS: Misery (getting Stephen King withdrawl ) and Haunt spam. But, this isn't a problem that Affli alone has, Shadow too is in need of a burst option, probably moreso than Affliction.
Going in general, "true" DoT classes need to have the majority of their damage done by DoTs, but to reign in DoTs in a consistant fashion, there need to be conditions. Take Shadow, largest hitting spell is DP, but DP needs 3 Shadow Orbs which need three Mind Blasts which can be reset by using Mind Flay (with talents). Fire depends on ignite and Pyroblast but both depend on Fireball (indeed, I always think Mages "simplify" the resource/DoT/pet styles as their "trope"). Not to go on with Unholy, (is Balance considered a DoT spec?..), and Rogues.
Haven't read everything here, but I do have another thing to suggest.
What, if GoSac would no longer increase the dot damage of Chaosbolt but instead changes Chaosbolt to consume only one backdraft Stack upon usage?
One change I would like is for Grimoire of Sacrifice to be useful to Demo. Currently it feels like we can not touch it at all. =[
I think it would be a fair change.
About the CB dependence, an easy fix for that could be, instead or also, giving the two conflag CDs the ability to refresh simultanously which would buff Ember Generation and damage outside from Chaosbolt. Of course there would have to be the obvious finetuning, but it would also make Destro a little more entertaining to play
Last edited by Skulljin; 2012-12-28 at 02:21 AM.
Also Skulljin: I keep forgetting Destro gained the DoT. But, the question of Chaos Bolt's damage is relative to the other spells in a Destro's arsenal. Probably a case where CB's true "damage" must factor in it's ramp up, and can't be easily ascertained, at least not at 3am... And, from testing, conflag charges are like runes, one must recharge before the other starts. Both refreshing independantly would seem to create the rune chaos that DKs had back in Wrath. Now, I like chaos especially for Destro, but not sure if that's the way to do it
Locks are the biggest group of whiners that WoW has. Your class got completely overhauled for MoP, loads of amazing stuff and affliction is one of the top specs at the moment.. Yet you still whine for more changes, more buffs, more green fire etc. If i was GC for the day I'd delete your class.
Don't tell people they are whiners or that you'd delete their class in their own class forums, that leads to flaming. ~xskarma
Last edited by xskarma; 2012-12-28 at 01:38 PM.
Either way, you're not helping. OP gave a wishlist of things OP would like to see changed, and that's fine. The rework wasn't particularly satisfying for OP, and that's to be expected. You can't please everyone every time. Sometimes a few really good ideas come from these lists, and other locks who love the class find it to be very attractive to solve an existing problem or just make lock QoL better. That has nothing to do with whatever amazing stuff a class might have, where DPS rankings are, or even how many revamps your class has gone through. OP isn't satisfied with the current build and has a few ideas to change it for the better, in OP's opinion. The "fun" factor that you'll never see reflected in any sim or any web ranking system. Why is that so offensive to you?
ITS NOT ABOUT 1 persone opinion, its not about 5 ppl opinion, its not about 10 ppl opinion.
Its about thinking about all 3 spec in ALL situation, so raids/5 men dungeons/lvling/soloing old content + PvP -> even more to think about it - cos you must think not only about warlocks but also about each other class in game.
Yes i could wrote my wishlist aswell. But that has nothing to do with serious rebuilding options like you, and many ppl like you, are trying to do in your posts. You are seeing mayby 5% of all and want to make changes . Thats wrong, that will never be taken serious. It only makes you more cry that blizzard is ignoring this.