All this USA bashing really needs to stop, I mean seriously this has gotten past old.
Don't you guys ever get tired of this conversation?
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Corporations want ONE thing from you. Your MONEY. If you want to nutshell traditional family values, they raise adults that build personal wealth. Corporations need to DESTROY traditional family values to get people to squander their talent, their wealth, go deep in debt, and make corporations rich.
Hollywood is part of the corporate machine, and tries to instill "consumer" values into people. These values are:
1. Live in the moment!
2. Have fun!
3. Buy! Buy! Buy!
4. Be "cool"!
5. Saving money is uncool!
People who live by traditional values are depicted as uncool Scrooges. People who obey the corporations are depicted as rebels.
The IDEAL citizen, to a corporation, would be James Dean. There's a guy who lives in the moment, doesn't care about money, loves fast cars, drugs, having fun, and being wild. That is a PERFECT corporate drone. These are the types of people that make corporations lots and lots of money. Corporations love James Dean.
Corporations want to destroy marriage, religion, and moral values, because doing so ultimately makes corporations more money.
Religion is a MASSIVE threat to corporations. People donate tons of money to churches. Churches teach people to be responsible adults. That is completely unacceptable to corporations. They relentlessly paint religion in a bad light in Hollywood to try to get people to turn away from religion. They need atheists. Atheists are much more likely to become corporate drones.
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Basically, large swathes of the American public are ignorant, uncivilized animals who can't be bothered to think about anything beyond their TVs. They are raised from birth to be obedient consumers, spend their whole lives unquestioningly consuming a veritable fire-hose of propaganda, and are never taught anything about finance, history, rhetoric, reasoning, or logic. (Increasingly, science is being cut from the curriculum as well.) Even the very concept of something like critical thinking is anathema.
For many people, being an American is like being in a religious cult; it's all about belief in their leaders and their scripture. You can point out that their leaders are hypocritical liars, that their scripture is re-written every decade or two, and they won't care, won't even let themselves acknowledge it, because it's easier and more comforting to believe than it is to think for themselves. Any decision beyond which (identical) flavor of 1000% marked up sugar-water to purchase is beyond them.
America wasn't always like this, it took a good century of effort to get there. But if you took a plain old enlisted soldier from either side of, say, the American Civil War, he would likely be disgusted by the willful ignorance and thoughtlessness of his descendants.
Last edited by Majad; 2012-12-28 at 04:27 AM.
If we look at Europe today, which in several areas is suffering form the same level of Political corruption and Corporate betrayal, why is the USA held to a standard beyond their own?
Don't get me wrong. I've lived in not this country. I have fond feelings towards other countries in which I have no real ties. But I don't go out of my way to try to hold them to a certain standard. I just don't get it.
Churches (at least the well-funded and popular ones) are no longer quiet centers of faith for their congregations and striving to help all those in need. They're propaganda machines, engines of hatred, pushing political agendas that are irrelevant to the moral and physical well-being of their constituents, but excel at dividing the citizenry into neatly packaged and easily led chunks of voters.
Family is of paramount important to human civilization. Yet somehow those at the forefront of the "family values" crusade are those who are least inclined to live by the precepts they so eagerly preach. Serial monogamy, closeted homosexuality, drinking, gambling, prostitution and affairs are endemic among the putative 'leaders' of the family values movement. And what do they actually do? Do they help families in need, or having a rocky time of it? Do they positively encourage their committed followers to lead by example? Hell no. They champion hatred and division. Again, a "traditional value" is used to turn people into thoughtless single-issue voters and to rob people of their empathy for their fellow human beings.
Traditional marriage is likewise a sham. First, the modern American cultural idea of "marriage" is maybe 150 years old, and then only for the middle class. In many ways, it's an invented construct. But more to the point, if the sacredness of marriage is so overwhelmingly important, then rationally, focus should be on things like the sky-high divorce rates, trophy wives, adultery, and serial polygamy. But the only time I see advocates of "traditional marriage" talking about those things is when they're awkwardly explaining why they, personally, did them, and how they've learned and promise to not get caught again. Instead, traditional marriage is yet another stalking horse for those who like to carve up the body public into mutually hostile and easily manipulated little groups.
The US is far from perfect but i can not for the life of me think of living anywhere else.
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The US has, since its inception this idea of "Manifest Destiny." I believe this has culled the sense of being the best in future generations.
It's hilarious to me that the US is waaaaay down in healthcare, but the highest expenditures. Pretty comical, but a lot of that can be ascribed to poor physical fitness and nutrition. We have to spend so much on healthcare because people don't take care of themselves. Tax the unhealthy people IMO. Or tax fatty/salty/unhealthy foods. Make meat extremely expensive so people have to eat something else.