To me the most fascinating thing has happened in warcraft is the story of the lich king. So no, this new thrown into the lore thunder king isnt on the same level.
I think lore wise Lei Shen, the Thunder King, might be comparable to the Lich King for the Pandaren. A cruel, powerful tyrant returned from death to conquer his ancient empire. Much in the same vain we saw the Lich King as a universal threat to the way of life.
I think both can be evenly matched in strength and story. The Mogu have a lot of ways to negate the LK's plague and undead (they fight mostly with reanimated statues) but are also shown as being arrogant, useless and overall weak in battle (the Saurok ended up killing a lot of them after they revolted, their entire empire fell apart because they couldn't manage without their slave races)
A fight between the two would be fairly balanced too.
They can make even more powerful creatures, but no one will be more epic than the Lich King. Not even Sargeras or his super-hyper-powerful creator of all unbreakable wow gods.
Last edited by Blapis; 2012-12-29 at 03:43 PM.
I agree, if we count armies in it would probably be evenly matched, but I'm still pretty sure that Lei Shen could crush LK.
Last edited by MasterOfKnees; 2012-12-29 at 03:51 PM.
Lei Shen is huge like the rest of his race, so he has great physical strength, he can wield lightning (which can be negated via null-magic zones or simple laws of energy if those are even canon in WoW)
Armies? The Lich king has got a army so vast it literally could swarm over Azeroth and kill everything... nothing short of re-origination could stop something like that
Lei Shen has construct creators, which can be destroyed if found, and if blood elves from the requliary can find them im sure Liches can find them
also most sentient mogu constructs (meaning the non-terricotta ones, ie the ones casting spells and hating everyone else) have souls, which we know are taken from mogu to be bound in stone once their body fails them or simply from birth, which could be consumed to either empower whoever consumes it, or make some sort of mogu banshee to serve the scourge
dont forget that the Lich King grows more powerful with every soul that is claimed by the scourge (http://www.wowpedia.org/Lich_King)
i really dont see how the Lich King could lose to Lei Shen 1v1 or army vs army
The Lich King had a plan - he wanted to use us in his army. However, we weren't strong enough and who wants weak soldiers, so he let us do what we wanted until we were worthy of joining him, and that's when ICC took place. The fight against the LK was a test to make sure that we were sufficiently capable. And we were - hence why he auto-killed us.
Also, it wasn't the Lich King who was holding the Scourge back, it was the small part of Arthas that was still within him that was stopping him from going balls to the wall.
Anyways, not counting in the army, I think its hard to say whether Lei Shen or Lich King would win in a 1v1 until we've seen Lei Shen in action, but as it currently stands I can rather see someone who enslaved a whole continent through fear than an arrogant fool win. Which frankly was the Lich King's biggest flaw, he was too arrogant, which was why he kept on getting his ass kicked in WotLK, and ultimately why he was defeated.
Last edited by MasterOfKnees; 2012-12-30 at 12:52 PM.
I'm pretty sure at some point Tirion mentioned that.
He froze Tirion because he wanted him to watch as he destroyed us and the world before finally killing him, Tirion would of been nothing, it was the LK's plan which ruined him, his overconfidence.
He could of instantly killed Tirion but he wanted him alive.
Last edited by Wælcyrie; 2012-12-30 at 07:35 PM.
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