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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    The fact that, if it is drawn ie no actual child is assaulted, no one is harmed.



    Last I checked, drawn loli is legal.. although it is hardly something I maintain interest in. Am I wrong on this matter?
    Whether it's legal or not, my point still stands.

    In a country where things seemingly insane to most people are acceptable, it's no surprise they're legal in that country.

    Look at America and the second amendment rights and the self-perpetuating wrong that causes, and yet people still defend it. Some people are just hopelessly ignorant because they're either unwilling to admit their opinion is wrong or because they're unwilling to make changes because it doesn't benefit them directly.

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    Ursusagalmatophilia.

    Everything else is wrong and evil and you should all feel ashamed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmatum View Post
    Well I guess there's no point trying to reason with ignorance, hell, you're probably one of the people that do this yourself, so there's no hope of making you see past what you've clearly already disregarded to satisfy your own wants.
    Well you sure proved Skelington wrong. If he supports it he must be a child molester. Ignorance is bliss.
    Quote Originally Posted by -Ethos- View Post
    Ursusagalmatophilia.

    Everything else is wrong and evil and you should all feel ashamed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmatum View Post
    Well I guess there's no point trying to reason with ignorance, hell, you're probably one of the people that do this yourself, so there's no hope of making you see past what you've clearly already disregarded to satisfy your own wants.
    Is there any need to resort to ad hominems? Whether or not Skelington sees it as such, you obviously meant it as a personal attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Palmatum View Post
    Whether it's legal or not, my point still stands.

    In a country where things seemingly insane to most people are acceptable, it's no surprise they're legal in that country.

    Look at America and the second amendment rights and the self-perpetuating wrong that causes, and yet people still defend it. Some people are just hopelessly ignorant because they're either unwilling to admit their opinion is wrong or because they're unwilling to make changes because it doesn't benefit them directly.
    I will ask you again, and don't answer with foolish strawmen like "it degrades society" or "it causes people to rape children," because those answers are extremely facetious. Who is harmed by individuals enjoying animated loli?
    “…the whole trouble lies here. In words, words. Each one of us has within him a whole world of things, each man of us his own special world. And how can we ever come to an understanding if I put in the words I utter the sense and value of things as I see them; while you who listen to me must inevitably translate them according to the conception of things each one of you has within himself. We think we understand each other, but we never really do.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    Is there any need to resort to ad hominems? Whether or not Skelington sees it as such, you obviously meant it as a personal attack.
    It's not a personal attack at all. Arguably billions of people feel the same way, hence it's illegal in the majority of civilized countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmatum View Post
    It's not a personal attack at all. Arguably billions of people feel the same way, hence it's illegal in the majority of civilized countries.
    It's not a personal attack because you're saying he's something that apparently billions of people despise?
    “…the whole trouble lies here. In words, words. Each one of us has within him a whole world of things, each man of us his own special world. And how can we ever come to an understanding if I put in the words I utter the sense and value of things as I see them; while you who listen to me must inevitably translate them according to the conception of things each one of you has within himself. We think we understand each other, but we never really do.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmatum View Post
    It's not a personal attack at all. Arguably billions of people feel the same way, hence it's illegal in the majority of civilized countries.
    "Everyone thinks the way i do - we aren't closed minded at all. You're just a sick piece of shit."

  8. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    Is there any need to resort to ad hominems? Whether or not Skelington sees it as such, you obviously meant it as a personal attack.



    I will ask you again, and don't answer with foolish strawmen like "it degrades society" or "it causes people to rape children," because those answers are extremely facetious. Who is harmed by individuals enjoying animated loli?
    You have missed it or ignored it the past two times, so I'm guessing repetition isn't going to solve anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skelington View Post
    "Everyone thinks the way i do - we aren't closed minded at all. You're just a sick piece of shit."
    Exactly, conform to the social norms or you are the epitome of evil and corruption.

    Quote Originally Posted by Palmatum View Post
    You have missed it or ignored it the past two times, so I'm guessing repetition isn't going to solve anything.
    You have yet to give me a coherent response on the matter. The answer is no, no individual is harmed, therefore it is not a morally reprehensible act.

    Quote Originally Posted by -Ethos- View Post
    Ursusagalmatophilia.

    Everything else is wrong and evil and you should all feel ashamed.
    I learned a new word today!! Yay!
    “…the whole trouble lies here. In words, words. Each one of us has within him a whole world of things, each man of us his own special world. And how can we ever come to an understanding if I put in the words I utter the sense and value of things as I see them; while you who listen to me must inevitably translate them according to the conception of things each one of you has within himself. We think we understand each other, but we never really do.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    I will ask you again, and don't answer with foolish strawmen like "it degrades society" or "it causes people to rape children," because those answers are extremely facetious. Who is harmed by individuals enjoying animated loli?
    From what I see/think if you take away all loli there would/could possibly be more people going out abducting children.

    Quote Originally Posted by Palmatum View Post
    It's not a personal attack at all. Arguably billions of people feel the same way, hence it's illegal in the majority of civilized countries.
    A lot of stuff is illegal because the people in power want to push their personal opinions on everyone else.

  11. #171
    "Exactly, conform to the social norms or you are the epitome of evil and corruption."

    Lol. Social norms are generally the result of widespread agreement on a subject matter.

    Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but that doesn't mean their opinion is right.

    "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter." is a good example of that.

    I don't think I'm the only one that disagrees with breaking down the barriers of social and moral acceptance of child pornography.

    How many sane people would want their children in the proximity of people that get off to child porn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmatum View Post
    Lol. Social norms are generally the result of widespread agreement on a subject matter.
    MLK's views were controversial. How convenient would it have been for his opposition if there weren't a concept of protecting the views of minorities?

    And you have yet to say who is directly harmed by animated loli.
    “…the whole trouble lies here. In words, words. Each one of us has within him a whole world of things, each man of us his own special world. And how can we ever come to an understanding if I put in the words I utter the sense and value of things as I see them; while you who listen to me must inevitably translate them according to the conception of things each one of you has within himself. We think we understand each other, but we never really do.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmatum View Post
    How many sane people would want their children in the proximity of people that get off to child porn?
    How many people want their feet in the proximity of people that get off to feet? Or better yet, how many people want to be female in the proximity of people who get off to female?

  14. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by Palmatum View Post
    Whether it's legal or not, my point still stands.

    In a country where things seemingly insane to most people are acceptable, it's no surprise they're legal in that country.

    Look at America and the second amendment rights and the self-perpetuating wrong that causes, and yet people still defend it. Some people are just hopelessly ignorant because they're either unwilling to admit their opinion is wrong or because they're unwilling to make changes because it doesn't benefit them directly.
    There is a clear, fine line between drawn fantasies and reality. It has been like that for ages and you guess what, it s a relatively peaceful country compared to your almighty America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronpas View Post
    There is a clear, fine line between drawn fantasies and reality. It has been like that for ages and you guess what, it s a relatively peaceful country compared to your almighty America.
    If we're going to be arrested for fantasies, might as well arrest everyone who's fantasized about killing someone they disliked a lot. Because I'm sure that's a tiny percentage.


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    There is clearly nothing wrong with this.
    Last edited by This name sucks; 2012-12-29 at 06:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digglett View Post
    If we're going to be arrested for fantasies, might as well arrest everyone who's fantasized about killing someone they disliked a lot. Because I'm sure that's a tiny percentage.
    Or arrest anyone who's "killed" an animated person. Anyone here play WoW?
    Last edited by Kasierith; 2012-12-29 at 06:47 AM.
    “…the whole trouble lies here. In words, words. Each one of us has within him a whole world of things, each man of us his own special world. And how can we ever come to an understanding if I put in the words I utter the sense and value of things as I see them; while you who listen to me must inevitably translate them according to the conception of things each one of you has within himself. We think we understand each other, but we never really do.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digglett View Post
    If we're going to be arrested for fantasies, might as well arrest everyone who's fantasized about killing someone they disliked a lot. Because I'm sure that's a tiny percentage.
    actually this is called psychopathic tendencies and thoughts, while yes probably about 75-80% of everyone has some sort of psychopathic thoughts fantasizing about killing someone is not something that has ever entered my mind, and if it has yours or does on a daily basis that would be the point in time to seek a mental hospital or at the very least a shrink. ive been in fights and ive wanted to beat the crap out of plenty of people, but i have never thought or sat there and day-dreamed about picking up a screwdriver and shoving it into someone's neck that i hate, or throwing someone into a wood chipper.


    also, defending the depictions and actions of child porn in any medium is a poor choice in thought. there is a clear difference between modeling and porn. if you choose to defend the very light and seemingly harmless versions of it then that is just the same as endorsing the hardcore child rapey versions of it. and trying to compare something like pedophilia with something like a foot fetish is stupid and getting a intelligent conversation or debate absolutely nowhere and is serving as nothing more then a red herring to distract simple minds.

    on topic, personally i dont care for asian food at all (my hatred for rice comes from the pits of my soul) both do appear to have beautiful geography and big citys to keep you busy. both also have been around for a really long time and from someone who loves history would be great places to visit and learn more about

  19. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by Kasierith View Post
    MLK's views were controversial. How convenient would it have been for his opposition if there weren't a concept of protecting the views of minorities?

    And you have yet to say who is directly harmed by animated loli.
    I'll be making this my last post because I'm not sure whether you're trolling, ignorant or just unbelievably stupid.

    Making bad things seem less bad and more acceptable is a dangerous path to go down, especially when it involves children. I'm not quite sure how anyone with the intelligence levels greater than an underdeveloped fetus is unable to grasp that, but there it is in what I think is pretty plain English.

    Oh well, I took the bait and no doubt this will get me reported for "Flaming" or a "personal attack", but oh well. If you want to carry on advocating child porn then that's up to you, pretty clear that you don't see any wrong in it and probably never will.

    Infracted: Please do not insult other users
    Last edited by Pendulous; 2012-12-29 at 07:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOMO1211 View Post
    actually this is called psychopathic tendencies and thoughts, while yes probably about 75-80% of everyone has some sort of psychopathic thoughts fantasizing about killing someone is not something that has ever entered my mind, and if it has yours or does on a daily basis that would be the point in time to seek a mental hospital or at the very least a shrink. ive been in fights and ive wanted to beat the crap out of plenty of people, but i have never thought or sat there and day-dreamed about picking up a screwdriver and shoving it into someone's neck that i hate, or throwing someone into a wood chipper.
    Never did say on a daily basis, but I'm sure everyone on earth has had these thoughts at least once in their life.


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