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    Anyone else tired of...

    Actiblizzard's standard excuse (and threat) that they cannot do X because then they could not do Y. Pertaining to all manner of things, and all games that they develop. They ham-fist the public an excuse that most accept without question.

    I'm also tired of the general rude behavior of their blue posters when responding to community members that have issue with their decisions.

    I can't be the only one that feels this way? I know people are going to badmouth me for saying something but... I'm just tired of it.

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    Not really. As a software engineer in the field for over a decade I understand where they're coming from.



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    Stop giving them money. It makes you feel better about them being a shitty company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    Actiblizzard's standard excuse (and threat) that they cannot do X because then they could not do Y. Pertaining to all manner of things, and all games that they develop. They ham-fist the public an excuse that most accept without question.

    I'm also tired of the general rude behavior of their blue posters when responding to community members that have issue with their decisions.

    I can't be the only one that feels this way? I know people are going to badmouth me for saying something but... I'm just tired of it.
    Why yes, I am tired of whiny little bitches like you.

    Oh wait, that wasn't the question? Should have been. This generalized complaining should just be deleted by the mods. It adds zero value. Well, aside from the pageviews it brings I suppose.

    Infracted. Flaming is not tolerated here
    Last edited by Darsithis; 2012-12-29 at 11:53 PM.

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    there are atleast 3 other very recent topics which have said all this and have had their points put down. there are dozens that are not so recent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    Not really. As a software engineer in the field for over a decade I understand where they're coming from.
    I dont. Esp as I
    've seen much smaller companies with a fraction of the resources deliver far more than Bliz does....and Bliz has the gall to cite lack of resources? are they pissing away money?
    No game will ever kill wow. Though Blizard themselves are making a pretty damm good attempt lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlacoatl View Post
    I dont. Esp as I
    've seen much smaller companies with a fraction of the resources deliver far more than Bliz does....and Bliz has the gall to cite lack of resources? are they pissing away money?
    Name some then. Please. Give me examples of much smaller companies that output far more content. While you do that, remember that Blizzard's games cover far more than WoW.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tlacoatl View Post
    I dont. Esp as I
    've seen much smaller companies with a fraction of the resources deliver far more than Bliz does....and Bliz has the gall to cite lack of resources? are they pissing away money?
    I don't think I've ever seen a small company deliver more product than World of Warcraft, care to cite some examples?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlacoatl View Post
    I dont. Esp as I
    've seen much smaller companies with a fraction of the resources deliver far more than Bliz does....and Bliz has the gall to cite lack of resources? are they pissing away money?
    Like which companies? There are some that do push out 'content' relatively quickly, but that content is complete shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlacoatl View Post
    I dont. Esp as I
    've seen much smaller companies with a fraction of the resources deliver far more than Bliz does....and Bliz has the gall to cite lack of resources? are they pissing away money?
    WoW's Community is also Massive in comparison to those other companies, of course its easier to spoon feed less babies.
    do what you feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DetectiveJohnKimble View Post
    Like which companies? There are some that do push out 'content' relatively quickly, but that content is complete shit.
    There is a big difference between quality content and just content. Sometimes I wonder when people complain if they notice the care that goes into the visuals, cutscenes, quests & lore, and quest flow of the content Blizzard puts out.

    That's not to say they're always good. Dragon Soul was not an amazing raid to me. I feel that the quality was sub-par compared to previous raids. But that doesn't make all of their content subpar. Besides, I'd rather wait a while for content that is excellent than to get crap really early.



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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    Actiblizzard's standard excuse (and threat) that they cannot do X because then they could not do Y. Pertaining to all manner of things, and all games that they develop. They ham-fist the public an excuse that most accept without question.

    I'm also tired of the general rude behavior of their blue posters when responding to community members that have issue with their decisions.

    I can't be the only one that feels this way? I know people are going to badmouth me for saying something but... I'm just tired of it.
    You aren't the only one that feels the way you do. Many people on these forums complain about the same things you are. Personally, I think you have the idea that Blizzard is bad and thus everything they do (no matter what it is) becomes bad.

    For your first point which I will label "The Excuse". I have to agree with Darsithis on this. I have been in game design for 10 years now, and have seen my fair share of the inner workings of several game studios. When they say "We can't do X because Y is blocking us" it's true. It happens more than you know. Think of it this way. Take a one time PC or Console game (non-mmo style so Halo for example)... They are designed and prototyped for years before any code is implemented. There is a lot of time to see what needs to be done and how best to handle it. Now look at an MMO. It's a game that is ever changing and has an ever changing list of wants from the player base. Some of these things take a long time to develop and just aren't possible in the time that the player base wants to see them. It's a good thing to have passion about the things you do or the games you play, but you have to understand that along with that... patience is needed too. It's hard to accept, but it's necessary.

    Now, about the general behavior of the Blue Posters (Community Managers), this all comes down to how a person reads what is being written and the mindset they have going in (at least this is how I see it). People who are unhappy with Blizzard tend to read more into the comments made by the Community Managers. There was a thread, on MMO-C, that I visited a day or two ago that featured some of Ghostcrawler's tweets to the community. The OP felt as though GC was being a rude and condescending jerk in his responses to the questions. Some people agreed with the OP and many others felt as though the responses by GC were just fine.

    It's this thread http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...being-arrogant

    I really feel like it's a mindset thing. If one is mad at Blizzard for whatever reason, one tends to read more into Blue responses.

    I will say that I have found a couple of CM posts to be rather snarky and maybe a bit over the line... but it happens infrequently. I guess I can't fault them for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    There is a big difference between quality content and just content. Sometimes I wonder when people complain if they notice the care that goes into the visuals, cutscenes, quests & lore, and quest flow of the content Blizzard puts out.

    That's not to say they're always good. Dragon Soul was not an amazing raid to me. I feel that the quality was sub-par compared to previous raids. But that doesn't make all of their content subpar. Besides, I'd rather wait a while for content that is excellent than to get crap really early.
    What about when you need to wait 9-12 months for shitty content that fails to meet even biggest fanboi's standards.

    Despite blizzard's official statement that they plan to release less content in shorter time spans. When the waits were longer than ever and the content was abysmal in quantity and quality.

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    You have to realize that Blizzard, like any company, has a strict budget and the ones designing your games aren't the ones deciding how many people are on the team. Yes a multi-billion dollar company should be able to have the updated models, a raid every four months, far better balanced classes (PVE and PVP) and loads more content than is currently available (which is the most they've ever had at once since Vanilla was first released), but they only have so many people to work with, so many manhours they can squeeze from them, a strict budget not unlike any other game development team has to deal with and an engine that despite being constantly updated is still build upon an old, very flawed framework.

    They're doing pretty damn well all things considered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlacoatl View Post
    I dont. Esp as I've seen much smaller companies with a fraction of the resources deliver far more than Bliz does.
    This must be a joke, please name a company (or several smaller ones as you claim), that provide bigger games then WoW.
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    Not tired, but annoyed with GC arrogant/rude responses. He really should hire a good PR consultant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    Actiblizzard's standard excuse (and threat) that they cannot do X because then they could not do Y. Pertaining to all manner of things, and all games that they develop. They ham-fist the public an excuse that most accept without question.
    You're not a rebel by refusing to accept things that the rest of the public understands and acknowledges based on the sound reasoning laid out by Blizzard. People aren't accepting it on faith. When Blizzard says "the technical limitations that need to be overcome to do cross-realm BoA mailing will require more time than we can dedicate to it to have it done before MoP" isn't the same as "We can't do it coz we can't". It's a rational explanation.

    I'm also tired of the general rude behavior of their blue posters when responding to community members that have issue with their decisions.

    I can't be the only one that feels this way? I know people are going to badmouth me for saying something but... I'm just tired of it.
    I think you're alone. Belligerent angry posters whom refuse to be reasoned with aren't afforded nor do they deserve to be treated in the same manner as cordial people.
    Blues aren't being rude, they are fed up with endlessly talking to people who are so wound up in screaming within their echo chamber they don't bother to listen to what is being said by the blues they are badgering. They still won't say it but everyone else here will, if you don't like it, stop paying for the product. Simple as that. Don't try to convince or insult the millions who disagree with you and want to keep paying and playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Dreamer View Post
    Not tired, but annoyed with GC arrogant/rude responses. He really should hire a good PR consultant.
    there was a thread topic about this and he was just responding arrogant QUESTIONS with arrogant answers.

    i dont get why you should be "annoyed" by his responses lol

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    i dont get why you should be "annoyed" by his responses lol
    Because of his arrogant responses, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulstrike View Post
    there was a thread topic about this and he was just responding arrogant QUESTIONS with arrogant answers.

    i dont get why you should be "annoyed" by his responses lol
    By this logic the entire shaman community is arrogant.

    Well I guess it's a small community often forgotten outside of the people who whine about resto in pvp, so whatever. Doesn't matter if he spits on them if noone else complains about it right?

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